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Beavers Win! Ducks Win! A Civil War for the ages, and the Roses!

Oregon St.'s Jacquizz Rodgers (1) ran for 165 yards against Washington St. (AP Photo/Dean Hare)

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Oregon St.'s Jacquizz Rodgers (1) ran for 165 yards against Washington St. (AP Photo/Dean Hare)

Oregon St. defeated Washington St. 42-10. Oregon defeated Arizona 44-41 in double overtime. As a result, the Civil War in twelve days will be for Pac-10 Championship, and the Rose Bowl. No strings attached. No tie breakers. No vote of college chancellors as was the case in 1964, the last time a similar showdown ensued, and the last time the Beavers went to the Rose Bowl.

ESPN will be there, and the college football world will be watching. The SEC, Big 10, and Big XII talk about how they have games like this, and that the Pac-10 rivalries really aren't that big a deal. Often, they are more right than most on the left coast would like to admit.

This is the chance for both the in state institutions. No beating the other guy just to spoil their season this time. Turns out the Pac-10 Conference has a Championship game too, and without bothering with divisional play. Both programs have arrived at the big time; are you really ready for some serious football?

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Unlike the last two years, where the home team, with a lot on the line, lost to a spoiler that came in hot, both teams come in close to healthy. With no disrespect meant for either program, even the most rabid of fans have to recognize (whether they admit to it or not), that in both cases, the home team was damaged, trying as much to find a way to not lose as to win. The Ducks minus Dennis Dixon, and then the Beavers without Jacquizz Rodgers, were not close to at their best. Neither side would ever use that as an excuse, but it was a fact, and a huge factor.

The good news this time is that won't be the case. Both teams are reasonably healthy, especially in the key-player category.

Oregon St. may have suffered some damage to Brennan Olander, but that is about it as far as impacts on the current rotation. Oregon appeared to survive the duel in the desert with no new problems an extra week and a Turkey dinner won't solve as well.

As far as the exercise in Pullman goes, there really was nothing gained, and nothing learned. Sean Canfield completed 75% of his passes, Quizz carried for 165 yards, and totaled over 200 with receiving, and James Rodgers went over 100 in all-purpose yards as well. But anything less would have been cause for major concern.

Washington St. dressed only 58 players, and only 44 scholarship players. Further, 18 players in the regular rotation in last year's Cougar-Beaver game who did not graduate were not on the field today. Understand, that means that not only is Big Sky and Football Championship Series (D-IA) Eastern Washington, Oregon St.'s next opponent from the state to the north, better equipped right now to compete with the Beavers, so to is Central Washington! A Division II, NWAC Conference team. The Cougars are so badly outmanned right now that their opponents are lucky to be able to count the win as a DI win.

And it will take a while for Paul Wulff, or anyone else, to fix it. Injured players (rightfully) still get their scholarship dollars, and while those that have been bounced for bad grades, or worse, removed for legal reasons no longer absorb those dollars, you aren't allowed to just immediately spend them on another player. Assuming Pac-10 quality players are available and willing to come to Pullman, there still won't be as many there as in Seattle, Eugene, or Corvallis come time for spring ball.

The Ducks already knew about the challenges of playing a big game late in the season in Tucson, having lost Kellen Clemens and Dixon for the season the last two times they went down there. After last year, the Beavers could tell Chip Kelly, who is new to the deal, about how tough it is of late to play the ‘Cats in the desert in a big game.

What prompted Kelly's decision to gamble in his own territory on fourth down, which, along with a curious, and apparently phantom, or backwards, facemask penalty, almost resulted in the Civil War for the Holiday Bowl, may never be known. Fortunately, a portion of Oregon St. fans that openly proclaimed on the radio and the web this past week that they would rather see the Beavers go to that Holiday Bowl, or maybe the Emerald Bowl, than the Rose Bowl if it meant that the Ducks won in Tucson, won't have to answer to several hundred young members of Beavers nation for that view.

At least this time, it is the Beavers who had a breeze of a workout, and the Ducks had to empty the tank to get the win down there.

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by Tortuga12 on Nov 21, 2009 9:47 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Oregon State by 4

Quizz goes for 175 yards and 4 TDs, effectively clinching his invitation to New York for the Heisman ceremony

I wish..

"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"

2008 Civil War: Oregon 65 - Oregon State 38

by cloudydays on Nov 21, 2009 9:49 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Man

That game is going to be EPIC. You going Andy?

I don't care what Quinn says, I am NOT a Duck Basketball fan.

by ConnorOSU on Nov 21, 2009 10:52 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Tickets are already on the shelf.

Andy Wooldridge, andy_wooldridge@yahoo.com
Go Beavs!

by AndyPanda on Nov 21, 2009 10:55 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice

I don't care what Quinn says, I am NOT a Duck Basketball fan.

by ConnorOSU on Nov 21, 2009 11:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Both of those predictions

are entirely within reason. Assuming the 44 is for the Beavers, and the 41 is for the Ducks (again), I don’t think I’m far out on the limb in speaking for Coach Riley, and the entirety of Beaver Nation in saying we will take that!

As I believe someone said,

OOOOOOOOOO SSSSSSSSSS UUUUUUUUUU !!!!!

Oregon State! Fight! Fight! Fight!

Hopefully, Duck nation will be hearing that in their sleep at least until time for hoops civil war round one.

Andy Wooldridge, andy_wooldridge@yahoo.com
Go Beavs!

by AndyPanda on Nov 21, 2009 10:54 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I'm pretty sure

That he was talking about the score of the UA-UO game. You’ve got it listed in your post as 41-38.

But yes, that very well could be the score of the CW.

I don't care what Quinn says, I am NOT a Duck Basketball fan.

by ConnorOSU on Nov 21, 2009 11:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Connor, my lad!

You just flunked Football History 101!

That was the score in ’98, after not one, not two, but three OTs. When one Ken Simonton went around right end, and into the dark in the corner of the end zone, in probably the most memorable Civil War to date.

Andy Wooldridge, andy_wooldridge@yahoo.com
Go Beavs!

by AndyPanda on Nov 21, 2009 11:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No

I know, I know. I’m talking about Tortuga12’s post above. Saying that the Ducks won 44-41.

I don't care what Quinn says, I am NOT a Duck Basketball fan.

by ConnorOSU on Nov 21, 2009 11:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice job on the story Andy.

These twelve days leading up to the CW are going to be almost as much fun as watching the game unfold.

GO BEAV’S!!

by RayBeavFan on Nov 21, 2009 10:56 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

ESPN was

already talking about the CW tonight on Sport Center

by RayBeavFan on Nov 21, 2009 10:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

In a strange way

You’re totally right. I love getting all this national coverage. It was different last year, because one, it was on Versus, and two, it was only for the Beavers to make the Rose Bowl. This year it’s on ESPN on a Thursday night. I hate the Thursday games, but I’ve got to admit that it’s going to be pretty cool having everyone in the nation watching us.

I don't care what Quinn says, I am NOT a Duck Basketball fan.

by ConnorOSU on Nov 21, 2009 11:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm hoping for a Civil War win...

…but after last year’s trouncing, I’m a little nervous. Then again, this time the Ducks have all the hype and pressure weighing at them, and Stanford and Arizona made for some good scouting games.

I think the key to beating Oregon is offense. Nothing can really stop Oregon’s offense when they’re clicking, so the only sure answer is to keep the ball out of their hands and score on your possessions. Like last year, I don’t see the Beaver defense making a huge impact on the Ducks since they score 40+ every game Masoli plays (minus that Boise State weirdness.) Canfield, the Rodgers, and the O-line will need to be spot-on.

While I’m sure we won’t be the favorite by a longshot, I think there’s a fair chance the team can do the Beaver thing and pull the upset :-)

by scotty256 on Nov 21, 2009 11:03 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

What do you guys think the line will be at

I’m going to say Beavers+5.

I don't care what Quinn says, I am NOT a Duck Basketball fan.

by ConnorOSU on Nov 21, 2009 11:14 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Ducks -7.5

"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"

2008 Civil War: Oregon 65 - Oregon State 38

by cloudydays on Nov 21, 2009 11:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ducks by 4.5

Oregon at home should be favored, more than a field goal, but going over a TD would expose the line to a lot of risk.

Andy Wooldridge, andy_wooldridge@yahoo.com
Go Beavs!

by AndyPanda on Nov 21, 2009 11:19 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Should be one heck of a game

As a UO fan I am STOKED that for the first time in 113 meetings (including this year’s), it will be for the Roses. How cool is that?

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on Nov 22, 2009 12:45 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I am SO excited

to have the Rose Bowl berth be in the State of Oregon! Our two teams have done this fine state very proud.

We’ll have plenty of time for the CW rivalry and vitriol. But gosh darnet, I do like the Beavers — I mean, it’s not like you guys are Fuskies or anything — and I’m super stoked that one of our two fine teams gets to go represent the PAC.

It’s been a thrillride of a season for both teams, and there is no more fitting finish than a Civil War for all the marbles.

The Oregon Ducks: Sporting the single best fifth-string running back that college football has ever seen.

by ProbablyMonty on Nov 22, 2009 12:56 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Before all the trash talk starts---

Congrats to OSU for taking care of biznai and setting up a Civil War that may shake slabs of concrete out of Autzen. Also for officially turning USC into a middle-of-the-pack also-ran, at least for this year. Good job; the entire conference—-hell, the entire civilized world—-thanks you!

This Duck alumnus will be there on the 3d. But you’ll get no score predictions from me. This one will be no blowout.

Life is a sport: Watch other people play it.

by Al Orange on Nov 22, 2009 3:00 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Portland TV

stations are lame. Headlines this morning say – *ucks beat Arizona, on track for Rose Bowl- It looks to me like the Beav’s will have to make sure they derail that train. What a bunch of oneways………..

by RayBeavFan on Nov 22, 2009 8:40 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

HELL YEAH

DUCKS VS BEAVERS FOR THE ROSES!!!!

DOESN’T GET ANY BIGGER MY FRIENDS!!

by Duck4Lif3 on Nov 22, 2009 3:02 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Nat'l Championship Dec.3 ? ? ? ?

As far as I’m concerned, this game IS the National Chamionship game. I believe either of our schools could beat anyone the BCS thinks should be there.

by NativeWebfoot on Nov 23, 2009 11:49 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking

That the Rose Bowl is more like the National Championship, and we are in the Semi-finals.

December 3rd. Autzen Stadium. Pac-10 Championship Game.

by ConnorOSU on Nov 23, 2009 4:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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