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Can OSU beat USC?

Why can't OSU beat USC? Some say it's because of the Trojan's superior talent. Others will say it's because of better coaching. Even a few will say that they are USC and OSU is just Oregon State. But this is all why they play the games.

And I hope that more then a few Beaver faithful understand that this is a game that Oregon State can win and not with just dumb luck (but I'm sure that OSU will take as much luck as they can get in this one). Will the effort require a perfect game? Well, it wouldn't hurt but here is how I think OSU can beat the mighty Trojans.

1. Do not get caught up in the mystique and hype that is USC.

They are just another team that scores the same amount of points for a touchdown, field goal and safety and point after TD as OSU. Sure, Rey Maualuga and Mark Sanchez are talented (and they have both been arrested for some form of assault) but you have lined up with guys just as good as them before. And once you get past the glitz and the glamour that only a team in LA would possess you will just realize they are another team that starts the game off with the same amount of points as you.

2. Tackle. Good open field tackling.

Against Hawaii the Beavs showed that they can be a good tackling team that many have known the past two years. And while Stanford and Penn State had some good and great athletes that might have been better then what Hawaiipresented, a good tackle still beats a broken tackle. More then likely, broken tackles are just usually the results of a bad effort by the defensive player.

3. Oregon State will need to keep the home crowd into it.

Not only will ESPN be there to broadcast the Thursday Night College Football, I can't remember the last time the World Wide Leader in Sports was at Parker Stadium to bring the Beavers to the entire nation. This crowd wants to show the world that it is one of the best in the country and the Beaver football team could really use this to their advantage to rattle USC and keep OSU pumped through the game.

I feel like this one is so important. I remember the OSU/USC game in 2006 and that crowd was great. But this was helped tremendously by the Beavers making plays to keep the crowd into it and in the end I think this was a tremendous advantage.

4. Penetrate, Penetrate, Score, Score (my favorite Stanford student section cheer).

So I'll state the obvious but some things to note about OSU on both its lines.

Last year the OSU offensive line was just torn up by the Trojans. It's amazing the Sean Canfield was injured by the cheap shot artist Will Harris who plays safety instead one of the DL's who were hitting him all night long. This year they need to be nasty (hopefully with the return of Jeremy Perry) and protect their QB. If Lyle Moevao gets time to find his receivers the Beavers could score some points.

This year the OSU defensive line has taken i ts time to warm up but you saw some signs of improvement against the Rainbow Warriors. And I don't want to take away any credit from the Beavers for getting some penetration through theHawaii line but they need to prove that they can do it against one of the bests. USC coming into town is perfect timing for OSU's DL to show up.

5. Let LA buy into their hype.

Now wait a second. Didn't I just say that OSU needed to ignore the hype generated for the Trojans? Yes I did but have you been following the coverage of this Trojan team? They are the cats meow in LA and Bristol, Connecticut. Instead of KEZI and KOIN covering some practice before a big game, this team has ESPN and CNN providing viewers of recaps and a look ahead to the next game. After a while you start to believe you can do no wrong and you are all that and then some. Sometimes this can help you in a big game type scenario (Ohio States and Notre Dames) but when you head into bees nest with national expectations of a blow out it could turn into a long night. Don't forget everyone saw OSU get destroyed in State College. How could that team beat USC? Why are they even playing this game?

6. Could USC be overlooking the Beavers?

All the talk I've heard from USC has been about focusing on OSU. Mark Sanchez said right after the Ohio State game and on Game Day the following weekend that their thoughts are on OSU. I even mentioned it on yesterday's epic That Guy Sports CFB Journal when I wrote that Sanchez said his only worry was falling asleep against the Beavs. I tried to make it sound like if Ernie McCrackin in Kingpin was making one of his condescending comments towards the competition even if Sanchez was not intending to come off like that. But I still wonder how much USC respects OSU.

In practice they are using one of their shorter running backs to mimic Jacquizz Rodgers so they could get used to finding a smaller RB in traffic. If I were USC I would be concerned if their Quizz rip-off can plow over a defender when he meets him in the open field. I wonder if he has moves like Barry Sanders and can block like Tom Rathman. Because if he doesn't USC might not be ready once the real Quizz appears from behind that line.

And I would still like to call out Sanchez for focusing on not falling asleep against OSU. Does he really think that if he just shows up he's going to win? That if he just shows up for the game that this OSU team won't be able to hang with USC? I'm sure Pete Carroll and company will do everything to do in their power to get their team ready for one of the best defensive backfields in the conference and practice the silent counts for a loud Parker Stadium. But if USC just expects to do their thing and goes through the motions against the Beavs then its going to be a really tough game.

7. Join the Mountain West Conference.

Just kidding. But as much Pac-10 looks bad this year I think a lot has to do with playing a tough non-conference schedule. And many think the Mountain West (well, all except for That Guy Sports) is just like the WAC or the Sun Belt, but this conference should have its conference champ play in a BCS bowl game every year.

8. Just imagine OSU beating USC.

Last year before OSU played the #2 ranked Cal Bears in Berkeley, no one would give the Beavers a chance. But I did and I wrote about how I could see it happening (http://thatguysports.blogspot.com/2007/10/i-can-see-osu-upset.html). At the time I was living in San Francisco and heard all these Bear fans saying that OSU didn't have a chance against the Cal. Later that day OSU pulled off one of the greatest upsets of the season and Cal, which plummeted them in the polls, had their season spin out of control for a 7-6 season.

And of course there is what happened the last time the Beavers and Trojans met in Corvallis. It was somewhat similar to what is going on today.

In 2006, OSU was 4-3 and no one gave them a chance against the Men of Troy. That victory spring boarded OSU to a 10 win season and a lot of the confidence and swagger that we see with the program today. If OSU can somehow find a way to beat USC can you imagine how the rest of this season could end up? A conference championship? A Rose or BCS Bowl? How about the seasons after this one?

All you have to do is start seeing OSU beating USC on Thursday night.

-Beavers415

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And Erin Andrews will be there!

she was the vital success to our 2 NCAA Championships in baseball

Woof

by Charles Barkley McLovin on Sep 23, 2008 10:55 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Unbelievable….

Live in the past much?

You make some good points and some of the analysis is pretty good but you debase it right out of the gate with your gratuitous pot shots at Sanchez and Maualuga. Once I read that it was hard to take the rest of the post seriously but I got through it. I’m not sure what their past has to do with how this game is to be played.

Right, Oregon State football players never get into trouble…something about Sheep if I remember correctly.

Mission accomplished you got your 15 minutes of attention.

Good luck tomorrow…

by Paragon SC on Sep 24, 2008 4:29 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

My comments on RM and MS were only egregious if you are a Trojan Fan

Paragon SC,

Thanks for the feedback. The Sanchez and Maualuga comments were just for humor which some of my friends found pretty funny. Can’t please them all and I don’t expect SC fans to laugh at.

Ahh, the sheep incident. Funny how people forget he received a DUI which was the worst part of that situation. That sheep has been swiped so many times as a prank at OSU its more of a tradition. Yeah, I know, we’re a cow college (or sheep).

The part about 2006 was just in relation to how important the crowd is and that it is possible for David to slay Goliath. Not a correlation to today’s USC team which is pretty awesome. If OSU has any chance of beating the Trojans then a lot of these things will have to come true. OSU needs to believe in themselves including the home crowd. Players feed off of that.

Its quite a challenge and I hope my Beavs can do this because I am a fan. Nothing more, nothing less.

Thanks for the comments.

by beavers415 on Sep 24, 2008 8:54 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Just so we are clear

my comment about living in the past is in regards to Sanchez and Maualuga and not about 2006. If I am a Beaver fan I use 2006 as a road map to get the crowd going…you know “we did it once, we can do it again”.

by Paragon SC on Sep 24, 2008 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I really doubt that SC will be overlooking the Beavers

Jacquizz Rodgers is solid, Moevao is good when he isn’t staring receivers down, and it seems like Riley always puts a solid team on the field. Plus, there’s 2006 to remember, and as more than one SC player has pointed out, conference games are against teams who know you from playing year in and year out, and always want the win in a way that an out-of-conference opponent won’t.

That said, when you ask about whether SC has seen anything like Jacquizz Rodgers in terms of run blocking and open field running players down, well: yes. Just not the same height.

I’m looking forward to the game, for what that’s worth. Should be a good crowd atmosphere and some tough defensive play from both teams.

by DC Trojan on Sep 24, 2008 2:16 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I was wrong

And this is why I don’t bet on games where I have an interest in the outcome.

by DC Trojan on Sep 26, 2008 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Criminal Records are Fair Game

I was wondering why you brought up living in the past. But my antagonizing side has to bring up the criminal records because that’s the price you pay for a free education and the spotlight.

by beavers415 on Sep 24, 2008 3:09 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

there ya go!

Great call Beavers415!

-RVM

by rvm on Sep 25, 2008 10:22 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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