Guilty or Not Guilty? Beavers throw up house of bricks- dominate Wulff
by Jake Bertalotto on Oct 12, 2008 11:46 AM PDT
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You be the judge. Did Oregon State "pour it on" down the stretch? Was the Canfield passing touchdown unjustifiable?
Washington State head coach Paul Wulff declined to comment when asked about Oregon State's late 39-yard passing touchdown, but he did say this:
"It was very frustrating, The kids are trying. The players are trying."
He was also very short with OSU head coach Mike Riley after the game. Also, many members of his coaching staff simply stared across the field in disbelief after Oregon State's final touchdown.
Then, Washington State linebacker Romeo Pellum said this:
"It really shows that Oregon State has no class, in my opinion. In that big of a win, usually teams run the ball and obviously Coach Riley showed that he doesn't have any class. That's just a thought we need to remember for the next time we play Oregon State."
However, Mike Riley and the Beavers felt that had reasons to justify throwing for the end zone with eight minutes left in the game.
"It was second-and-12 and we called a pass play," Riley said. "When we get into those situations, whether we're ahead or behind, I don't think about it too much, except I try to play all of our players. But I'm going to let them play. Sean hasn't thrown a pass in a game for a year; I got a chance (to have him) do that today. I don't feel too badly about that."
Oregon State dominated the stat sheet. The Beavers had 26 first downs to WSU's 8. The Beavers had 548 total yards, compared to Washington State's 132.
Slade Norris had this to add:
"We're proud of the way we have played the last four games. We're just going to keep on winning. We're rolling right now. We feel very confident."
So, Beaver Nation, what's the call?
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Whud-ever.
It was a walk-on wide receiver catching a pass from a guy who hadn’t played in a game in almost a year.
…Against a first-team defensive back who was playing up to take away the short routes. The receiver made a sight adjustment at the line and just ran.
WSU was handing out cheap shots to James Rodgers and Sammie Stroughter all game long, tackling them on running plays 40 yards away from the ball and then shoving them when they got back up over and over again.
It was about what you would expect from a team 35 players arrested in the offseason and who weren’t dedicated enough in the classroom to not lose 10 scholarships this year.
by CV3000 on Oct 12, 2008 12:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
forgot to mention...
That was Adeniji’s first career reception.
8 players scored touchdowns. If they had stopped this play, I doubt their feelings would hurt any less.
by CV3000 on Oct 12, 2008 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta Let them Play
I don’t see this as any different than breaking a running play. What is OSU supposed to do? Run it up the middle in a cloud of smoke? The game “may” have been out of hand but if the defense snuffs the play out, we aren’t even talking about it.
On the other side of the coin, if the play had been more of a trick play, I would have come down on the other side of this argument. I think most fans, given the same position, would feel the same way.
--Dominic
Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.
by dvieira on Oct 12, 2008 12:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe change the wording of the poll a little bit
To something like “Not Guilty – Oregon State just ran a passing play on 2nd and long”
Because that’s what happened. It was nothing out of the ordinary, run a passing play. So what?
I think that Romeo Pellum also may not know Mike Riley all that well…
Your friendly neighborhood placekicker.
by qrsouther on Oct 12, 2008 12:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Tweaked it a little bit.
--JB--
by Jake Bertalotto on Oct 12, 2008 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same comments as my previous post
Canfield threw a grand total of two throws and the guy has been out for so long he needs to get a couple in. We were running at will too so what is WSU going to blame them for calling too of long running plays with McCants and Francis. Stop running it 15 to 20 yards please?
So I agree with dvieira and sure if it was trick plays, fly sweeps, and throwing from the shotgun then that is over the top. But you can’t just totally roll over to make the other team feel better, you lose focus and that edge like they did when going up 21-0. Then I think the biggest problem is that if you get too much into not “rubbing” it in there does become an issue of losing one’s edge for the next game.
Oh, and if you can’t stop the second/third teamers, well…
-RVM
by rvm on Oct 12, 2008 1:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Okay
So, I am partial to one team here so let’s look a little bit on the other side.
I do understand WSU’s overall frustration. They were actually in it there for awhile and just got blitzed in the 2nd half, so they saw signs of life finally this Pac-10 season and then were brought back down to reality quickly. They had more injuries to key positions. I can totally understand the frustration about it all for yes they were trying and playing as hard as they could. But that said I personally think they are projecting a bit too much on the Beavs and Riley in running up the score when really there are many internal issues going with the team right now.
-RVM
by rvm on Oct 12, 2008 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another WSU article on the subject
by Jake Bertalotto on Oct 12, 2008 6:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
"Bad taste in your stomach"?
Mixing adages there, Romeo…
Your friendly neighborhood placekicker.
by qrsouther on Oct 12, 2008 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I said this over on Conquest Chronicles after the USC/Oregon thrashing..
I don’t have a big problem with Mustain tossing that TD pass. It hurt – yeah. Was it unnecessary? yeah.
But I also understand if you got your fresh blood out there, you want to see what they can do in a game day environment. The guys were just out playing the game. If the score was over 60, then I’d start waving a red flag.
Let Canfield play. You can only get so much by watching him hand the ball off twenty times.
It's spelled "S-h-u-f-a-i-l"
by JShufelt on Oct 12, 2008 10:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Didn't the Ducks take some heat for running up the score against Washington?
Was the TD with 0:46 left necessary?
--JB--
by Jake Bertalotto on Oct 13, 2008 12:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
2 Yd Run
I remember watching that, and being on the fence about whether we should have scored that TD. The only thing I can say is that is was about the 20th straight running play, and Harper was the last active QB on the roster at that point (Thomas was still going to redshirt). My whole outlook on running the score up is that if you have your freaking 2nd and 3rd string players in and you are running normal plays (i.e. a pass on 2nd and long) it’s not running the score up. You only get so many chances to get the backups game action. Would WSU have felt that much better losing 59-13? Or UW losing 37-10? Aren’t they effectively saying, “just hand us the ball so we can score a mop-up time touchdown ON YOU”?
I like the yellow helmets!
by MarineCorpsDuck on Oct 13, 2008 6:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sarcasm or not?
I’m going to give the Ducks a pass on this one. 8 plays, 42 yards in 2:50 seconds. The Ducks are more explosive then that, just look at the rest of their drive summaries. They must have been conservative. Plus, isn’t it really more of a slap in the face to not do anything when you’re at the 2 yard line? Just my opinion.
The Artist Formerly Known as OrState GoBeavs
by The VD Special on Oct 13, 2008 12:28 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I wasn't really trying to be sarcastic
I just remember reading something about how the Ducks were taking a lot of crap for running the score up, and I think it was after the Washington game. Then, against USC, Pete Carroll scored a late TD against the Ducks, and Bellotti was all up in arms about it after the game.
Maybe I’m making it up.
--JB--
by Jake Bertalotto on Oct 13, 2008 12:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it was ridiculous for Bellotti to react about the USC thing. I was defending USC, just like I was defending OSU. I mentioned over at conquest chronicles that we had our 3rd, 4th strings out on the field, and we were just running the ball for the high scoring games we’ve been in. I just omitted that from my quote because I didn’t think the ducks pertained to the discussion.
It's spelled "S-h-u-f-a-i-l"
by JShufelt on Oct 13, 2008 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
One other thing for anybody thinking it was "running up the score"
For the WSU player saying OSU and Coach Riley have no class, take a look in the mirror bud. How many times did your defense cheap shot Stroughter or one of the Rodgers’ bros?
And ask anybody in the country who has more class as a coach than Mike Riley. The list is a short one. I’m sorry your first team defense can’t stop our 2nd and 3rd string guys. Not our problem.
The Artist Formerly Known as OrState GoBeavs
by The VD Special on Oct 13, 2008 2:32 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah. This is from user "Rilesinnewberg", in reference to the game WSU won against Portland State
According to the play by play in ESPN.com they were 4-6 passing for 57 yards in the fourth quarter. Of course it was “only” 41-7 at the start of the quarter, and they probably felt their lead was in jeopardy. I guess it makes you feel better when a team quits playing against you rather than to continue to try. You can tell they quit when the did not let Wagner throw when he came in.
--JB--
by Jake Bertalotto on Oct 13, 2008 6:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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