Pac-12 And Big 10 To Increase Interconference Scheduling
The Pac-12 and the Big 10 announced today that they will collaborate on scheduling and network cross-promotion.
The move expands on the long standing Rose Bowl relationship between the two conferences.
For football, it will take a while, due to the already in place non-conference games various schools have contracts for. But by 2017, the conferences are expecting to have a full, 12 game schedule in place, where every Pac-12 school will play a game every year against a Big 10 school.
Oregon St. may not see a direct effect from this in football until 2019, as the Beavers already have a home and home with Minnesota scheduled for 2017 and 2018, which will probably not be altered, though there is room on the Beavers' 2015 and 2016 schedules for the possible addition of games against Big 10 opponents.
Inter-conference games could be added prior to 2017 where schedule openings exist, according to the conference's joint news release.
But a decade from now, home and home series like the one Oregon St. is currently in the middle of with Wisconsin, will become a regular feature.
The scheduling cooperation will become more apparent sooner for men's and women's basketball, where scheduling isn't typically as long term as for football. Neutral site games, a possibility for football, are much more feasible for basketball as well, as are double-headers, which could feature 4 teams, or a mens and womens double header, such as Oregon has done at times in Portland.The move is in part to increase exposure and interesting matchups for both leagues without further expansion.
"We've obviously explored the possibility of going beyond 12 teams,'' Pac-12 Commissioner Larry Scott said. "I've been a believer, philosophically, of that, if it made sense. Now, I don't see us expanding anytime in the foreseeable future. A lot of what we can do through collaborating with the Big Ten will help us accomplish some of the same things as expansion.''
"As other conferences continue to grow through expansion, we believe there is great merit in deepening the historic relationship between the Big Ten and Pac-12," Big Ten Commissioner James E. Delany added. "We believe that both conferences can preserve that sense of collegiality, and still grow nationally, by leveraging our commonalities in a way that benefits student-athletes, fans and alumni. This collaboration can and will touch many institutional undertakings, and will complement our academic and athletic missions."
The creation of more attractive intersectional games results in more games attractive to both the major networks, ESPN/ABC and FOX, as well as games that would have mutual interest to both the Big 10 network and the Pac 12 network, and their viewers.
Recruiting will benefit as well, with the Big 10 gaining exposure in California, and the Pac-12 gaining a presence in the populous areas of the midwest that the Big 10 occupies, and has not been that significant of a target for most schools in the Pac.
It should also ease scheduling challenges for small stadium Pac 12 schools, which is actually most of them, compared to the monstrous midwest venues at Michigan, Ohio St., Wisconsin, Nebraska, Penn St., Iowa, among others. Even when it is Indiana or Illinois, a more attractive opponent than some of the teams showing up in Corvallis and Eugene will be assured every other year or so.
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This is awesome
For all sports, but particularly football. Assuming this happens, at some point between now and 2040, we’re guaranteed we’ll see Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, Nebraska, etc. all come through Corvallis. Without this agreement, I doubt this would have happened.
I’m voting for a home-and-home with Purdue in 2015 and 2016 to start things off, for largely personal reasons. The big schools won’t come here until they have to, but Purdue’s an achievable get.
"The big schools won’t come here until they have to"
What, you don’t think Ohio State is pulling a lot of recruits out of Crescent Valley?
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Great News!!!
I’ve wondered why such a scheme hasn’t been in place before now – I guess the right Commissioners haven’t been in charge of the respective conferences. I’d love to see the Beavs and Ducks play 2 Big10 teams each year in football (a home and away game) and 4 or even 6 in basketball. But this is a great start. The Big Ten is our natural rival conference and home to great programs.
I’m looking forward to the matchups!
I doubt there will be more than 1 per year in football,
but with only 3 non-conference games, that will be enough, with a no-return game arrangement, and a home and home with a usually non-AQ conference in most cases.
Some in the Big 10 are talking about this being a reason for them to not go to a 9 game schedule, so that they can continue to have 7 home games (something fairly rare in the Pac), but there’s no reason for that; just have their game at their place be in the years they get only 4 home Big 10 games, and have their trip west come in years when they have 5 conference games.
The schools that also want to have a series with Notre Dame will have to settle for 6 home games some years, but that’s the price of playing the Domers.
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It sounds like an 8-game conference slate for the Big 10 is a done deal
As per Adam Rittenberg on ESPN.com,
The scheduling partnership means the Big Ten won’t be moving from eight conference games to nine beginning in the 2017 season. The league had announced the increase in August.
“If it’s not off the board, it’s coming off the board,” Delany said. “When this opportunity was raised, it’s pretty much the understanding that it’s in lieu of.”
It says something when a program
with the kind of tv contracts currently in place, and the Big 10 network revenue stream, still “struggle” with even 7 sellouts of stadiums that hold 90K+ (+ in several cases), and need that 8th. one. This when in many cases their season’s travel bill equals 1-2 games for the teams in the west.
The Pac and the other “better” western teams (Boise, SD St., etc.) are playing a very different game than back east in more ways than one.
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Most B1G schools don't schedule 8 home games.
In fact, it’s pretty rare that this happens. I wouldn’t expect that to change with this agreement. Most B1G fans seem pretty happy with staying at 8 conference games. As a Minnesota fan I’m especially happy because staying at 7 home games is a must for the Minnesota athletic department and the unbalanced conference schedule likely meant even more meaningless creampuff games at home.
love this every confs should do something like this
why can’t it start sooner
oh, them beavers
Some teams probably will start sooner
Too many teams have schedules extending out that far in advance, meaning it wasn’t possible to guarantee everyone will have free slots for a non-conference game. As Andy said, Oregon State has openings in the 2015-2016 schedule, I hope they’ll try to get a home-and-home with a Big 10 school (that’s not Wisconsin or Minnesota) for those years.
big games
I just hope there will not be more bigger losses
oh, them beavers
It does raise the bar for coaches,
though the guarantee of sellouts for games against attractive opponents insulates the athletic department from the impact of losing, at least temporarily.
If they do put emphasis on competitive balance, as Delaney suggested, the have nots with small stadiums could still get the short end of the deal unless they make themselves desirable by putting a winning program on the field on a consistent basis.
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"Insulates the athletic department from the impact of losing"?
If you’re saying that revenue from games with B1G opponents will insulate the athletic dept. from losing seasons, I don’t follow your logic. The new Pac-12 TV contract already ensures a steady revenue stream, no matter what the attendance is. But if the Beavs keep fielding mediocre, scratch that, less than mediocre football teams, nothing will “insulate” the athletic dept. from the “impact” of wrathful fans. And if you’re right about more sellouts, there will be even more fans comparing the quality of B1G football vs. Beaver football up close.
As a Minnesota fan, I’m especially looking forward to the upcoming UM-OSU games. Both teams are less than mediocre at present, but the Gophers have a new coaching staff, and I expect the team to be much improved. Riley and his staff had better prepare well for these rodent-to-rodent contests or they’ll be road kill (or home kill, depending on which stadium).
by fanoverboard on Dec 29, 2011 5:49 PM PST up reply actions
There will indeed be more fans comparing the quality of B1G and Beaver football
But the attractiveness of these opponents, many of whom also travel real well, will sell tickets, and for a while, will fuel the idea that what is currently going on (losing, and doing a bad job of it) must be ok (if things are still going similarly) because people are buying the tickets.
In the long run, you are right, there will be even more wrathful fans, and those fans are going to be hard to bring back.
But we have already seen and heard that everything from bad parking to bad lighting to bad ball is somehow “acceptable”, because tickets are still being sold. The current acknowledgement of the backlash is finally signaling that there is some awareness of problems, but there is still no apparent sense of urgency.
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Hear, Hear
My Dad taught at Purdue when I was a kid, grew up there on Big 10 basketball. My Dad and I have been looking to make a trip back to West Lafayette since I left in 1984, would be fun to make it to see a Beaver game. He’s 67 now, so I don’t want to wait too long….
Bring on the Boilers in ‘15-’16! Or at least ‘19-’20!
Hey Beavers, Michigan guy here
Glad to see this news, hope we get to see some great games. Looking forward to a long partnership.
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A home and home in the Big House and Reser
would be interesting!
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This is exciting
I have always had respect for Big 10 schools. I think it is awesome that our conferences are partnering. I would love to see teams like OSU, Mich and Nebraska come to corvallis. I would also love the opportunity to travel to those schools stadiums to see the Beavs play. Excellent move on the Pac’s part.
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Tempering things a bit,
there will be at least as many instances of Indiana, Illinois, Northwestern, and Minnesota coming to Corvallis. Those aren’t the worst of all worlds either, though.
But given there are maybe 5 (out of 12) “marquis” brand name programs in the Big 10, you are looking at one of them here about once every 5 years, maybe even less if the Beavs get sucked into a “neutral” site game in Chicago or Indianapolis.
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What's interesting as a B1G fan...
…is that our media outlets are running quotes from Delaney that seem to stress the competitive aspects of scheduling which would suggest more Oregon State/Minnesota type matchups while Scott seems to be talking about home and homes where Oregon State sees Michigan/Ohio State/Nebraska. It’ll be interesting to see how the details shape up over the upcoming years.
In any case, I was looking forward to the Gophers trip out here in 2018.
I noticed that too
They’re giving different messages, depending on their audience. I doubt any of the actual logistics are worked out at this time, I wonder if Scott and Delaney have slightly different ideas in mind.
I’m looking forward to seeing Minnesota come this way in 2018 (and Wisconsin this fall), I’d be fine leaving those prescheduled as is. The only way I think they need to change that is if they are aiming to have different opponents every year. Or we could just play two Big Ten opponents that year, which would be fine by me.
I expect that with the challenges and logistics of interconference scheduling
the already scheduled ones will stay, and they will build on those. They will have enough work to do as it is.
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another great move
by the commish. Now if he could fix the refereeing……….
You had to bring that up!
We will also see more of the Big 10 officials who have also turned in some ugly performances in recent years. Just ask Washington.
Anything that increases exposure can only help bring attention to the problem, though, and that’s the first step required to start to correct it.
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Every conference thinks their fans have the worst referees.
Go to any message board, you’ll find similar comments like “Our conference has the worst refs ever!”
The refs have a tough, thankless job, and while there are certainly some that are better (or worse) than others, I don’t think the Pac-12 is worse, as a whole, than any other conference. Refereeing is never going to be perfect; I wish more fans would focus on things that are within the control of their teams (poor coaching/playing/personnel selection) than on things that are out of their control (like officiating). Larry Scott has been doing some things to revamp the officiating (i.e. removing the Arizona alum & donor from the replay booth at Arizona home games, implementing more in depth peer review, etc), but I think this is something that will improve over time, in a subtle manner.
Don’t get me wrong, I get frustrated with officiating at times, too (Bernard’s “fumble” in the end zone and the non-fumble by Cincinnati still raise my ire), but until you have omniscient robots wearing the zebra stripes, suspect officiating is going to be a part of the game. There will be times when the Beavers get burned, there will also be times they benefit; over time, it should roughly balance out.
The fact remains that some circuits have, as a group,
better groups than others. Watching a number of games where I had no stake in the outcome, other than to detect anything that could be a key to the game, and future games, it becomes apparent over time where there are some significant problems.
When they are reoccurring, they are usually a reflection about some philosophy, or some systematic issue, that exists locally to that group.
I agree that it will take a while for Larry Scott to affect a culture change with the Pac-12 officiating, and not all of the measures taken may work. But like in other areas, at least Scott is aware there is an issue, and is at least trying to take steps. There doesn’t appear to exist a similar awareness and commitment to addressing problems in this area with the Big 10, which means the problems will persist for a while.
Depending on how successful Scott ultimately is, he may still positively influence matters elsewhere in this area as he has on other subjects.
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For next year's schedule
When do they announce the Pac-10 season schedule?
Not for a while
We’re going to have to lose a couple teams before they announce the Pac-10 schedule.
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Word is they are trying to have it ready in January
Working out details for the Pac-12 Network to avoid overload and overlap and moving some games off of Saturday, and then all the secondary issues that causes, in order to finalize it is being worked on.
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