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Ducks Dig Out Win Over Beavers

Jared Cunningham Dunks Against Oregon, but it wasn't enough to bring Oregon St. the win in Civil War Battle #334.

(Photo by Andy Wooldridge)

Final Score: Oregon 63 Oregon St. 59

In a game where both teams took turns playing well and poorly, Oregon executed best at the end, and claimed a four point road win in the 334th. Civil War. FSN, which carried the game nationally, got good tv, if not necessarily good basketball.

A competitive first five minutes turned into Duck domination, as a 9-0 run capped a 22-5 stretch that produced the game's largest lead, a 17 point, 33-14 Oregon advantage 4 minutes before halftime.

Fortunately for the Beavers, Oregon then did what Oregon has done on multiple occasions this season, and gave back a big lead.

Oregon St. came back to life with an 8-0 run to the break that cut the deficit in half, fueled by three straight baskets by Lathen Wallace, and a switch to man to man defense. The rally extended into the second half, and would eventually be a 28-7 Beaver streak that gave Oregon St. their largest lead of the game, when a pair of Devon Collier free throws opened a 44-40 lead with 9 minutes left.

The Ducks responded again, and Jay R Strowbridge produced three straight Oregon baskets, including driving layins on both sides of the key that got behind the Oregon St. defense. E. J. Singler answered a pair of Wallace free throws with his fourth three pointer of the game, giving Oregon a 51-48 lead as the clock wound down to the five minute mark.

The highly partisan Oregon St. crowd of 9,836 thought they were going to see their Beavers take control of the see-sawing momentum when Calvin Haynes found Jared Cunningham crossing on the baseline with a lob pass for a rim twisting dunk at the 4:39 mark that pulled the Beavers within 51-50. But it was as close as Oregon St. would get.

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Garrett Sim (above) sank his third three pointer of the game to answer, and Strowbridge stroked another three pointer on the Ducks' next flight down court, as Oregon built the lead to 7 points three times going down the stretch.

A three pointer by Cunningham and put-back by Roberto Nelson pulled Oregon St. back within one possession with 9 seconds left, but Strowbridge closed the game out with a pair of free throws that gave Oregon the 63-59 win.

A major factor in Oregon's rebuilding an insurmountable lead were missed layins by Joe Burton, Haynes, Wallace, and Roberto Nelson. One of the baseline looks hit the bottom of the rim, and another the bottom of the backboard.

Oregon St. coach Craig Robinson characterized the Beavers' inability to execute the plays necessary to pull out the win as "pathetic", and Wallace admitted "We had some plays down the stretch that we didn't finish. And we had some turnovers and that pretty much killed us."

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Singler, a Medford, OR, native (above) finished with a game high 16 points to lead Oregon, while Sim and Strowbridge both were right behind, with 15 apiece. Strowbridge had 13 of his points in the second half, and was an unexpected Beaver killer.

Nelson was the only Oregon St. starter to reach double figures, and he only booked 11 points. Wallace, shown below shooting over Oregon's Malcolm Armstead, came off the bench to score 15 points to lead the Beavers.

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"Lathen was big," Robinson said. "He was due. He's been working in practice, as hard and as seriously as anybody on the team, but it hasn't been transferring to the games. Today, it did. Every time he shoots the ball, we think it's going in."

Oregon jumped out to their early lead with a combination of attacking the ball on both ends of the floor, and capitalizing on Oregon St.'s getting out of position. Burton in particular was late to the party several times, as a result of stepping too far out at the expense of leaving the base line area open.

Several shots were taken without the Beavers being in position to rebound, and not all outside shots are going to fall. Burton on a couple of possessions took a couple steps above the block in order to better meet possible incoming passes, and when shots were lofted without accounting for whether Oregon St. was prepared to rebound, it didn't matter that Omari Johnson was in great position. Up against as many as three Ducks, it was an easy matter to wall Johnson off, and have someone clean up the lose board with Burton behind them.

A similar problem arose on the other end of the floor. One requirement of playing a zone defense is that everyone actually be in their zone. Against a team like Oregon that moves the ball well on the perimeter, it's always tempting to step out to help. Which is what Burton did. That let Jovan Catron, who was back in action after missing both of Oregon's games a week ago with a calf bruise, get loose behind the defense, and while Catron isn't a game changer per se, you can't chase him after he has the ball.

Robinson corrected the problem, but the learning moment contributed to Oregon St. having to expend a huge amount of physical and mental energy to overcome the hole inexperience contributed to digging.

During the middle half of the game, the apparent criticism of Robinson's game management centers around two key points. Number one, why didn't Oregon St. return to the man to man defense that keyed their rally late in the first half?

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Oregon's Joevan Catron (34) was held to 8 points by the Oregon St. defense,

once the Beavers tightened up inside.

Robinson said afterwards that "It was hard, and it was tough. But we matched their intensity, and that was good. I thought we did a great job on the boards. So there were a couple things out there that were positive."

So why not stay with it more of the time?

The other had to do with using Angus Brandt and Kevin McShane too little, and too late. Brandt demonstrated better discipline about playing in position, and McShane as usual brought great energy to both the Oregon St. defense, and in the passing game offensively. As close as the game was at the end, a couple of baskets made or prevented would have been enough to make up for even all the missed opportunities that ultimately cost the game.

Robinson is correct about the Beavers (still) needing to learn to play 40 good minutes, but it seems that a good start would be more of Brandt's self discipline (despite his having less total experience on the floor), and McShane's energy. Enthusiasm and desire aren't lacking in the rest of the squad (this speaks to concerns about how much Oregon St. seems to "want to win"), but McShane has shown the experience that comes with being a senior to be able to apply energy without losing track of his assignment.

It should be noted, however, that game management down the stretch was good, as Robinson's use of time outs and substitutions still put Oregon St. in position to have a chance to pull the game out. Unfortunately, execution was lacking, while Oregon coach Dana Altman's squad, to their credit, didn't fold under pressure, and didn't repeat their mid-game breakdowns.

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Even 'Divine Intervention' wasn't enough to put Oregon St. over

the top against Oregon.

The crowd was the largest in Gill in some time, and notably, the number of Oregon fans that showed up was the smallest in some time. Even women's Civil War games, traditionally much more lightly attended, even in "good" times, have drawn significantly more Oregon fans than were apparent today. This was a big surprise, and only makes what the Duck team pulled off more impressive.

The loss was especially inconvenient for Oregon St. (8-10, 3-4), who dropped into a rat race in the second tier of the Pac-10, with only four home games remaining in the conference race. The Beavers visit the Bay Area next, for games Thursday at Cal at 8 PM, and Saturday at Stanford, at 7 PM.

Oregon (9-10, 2-5) climbed out of the Pac-10 cellar with the win, and the games in the Bay Area have the potential to move any of the four teams as high as third in the conference scrum, or almost to the bottom of the pack.

(Photos by Andy Wooldridge)

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Confused = “It should be noted, however, that game management down the stretch was good, as Robinson’s use of time outs and substitutions still put Oregon St. in position to have a chance to pull the game out. Unfortunately, execution was lacking” = Really? Seemed like the substitutions helped put us in a hole. I don’t understand why he pulled Wallace in the second half when he did. I do agree about the execution and a coach can only do so much, but it seemed to be on both ends. Like mentioned about using Brandt and McShane more. Can you explain your thinking here a bit more Andy for maybe I’m just too angry about it and not seeing it clearly enough?

Disappointed = Team fire and desire. Wallace had a fantastic game and did what this team needed when they were struggling to find a leader on the court. The senior came out and kept them in it at half and then got the team to the tie. But where was the rest of the team? A player like Wallace can only do so much and he did that I thought, it was time for the team to pick it up. I just feel personally like they left Lathen out in the cold on this one and that doesn’t bode well for creating a team bonding for the rest of the season IMHO.

Very Disappointed = Inside game. Where is it? Didn’t we have the advantage here against Oregon? I agree with mckalk and Andy why not keep Brandt in there to get his game legs under him? What was up with Burton? Did he even want to be playing basketball yesterday? He showed some brief bits of fire and played some ok defense, but also just seemed to be mentally not 100% into it.

Slightly Happy = I thought the defense actually played ok, not great mind you, but ok and liked the man-to-man change up and thought in many ways the defense kept them in this game in the second half. Rebounding too was fairly solid overall (again not great).

Happy = I really did like and appreciate Wallace’s fire and drive in this game. I know the seniors get a ton of grief piled on them and about their drive and playing skill. But Wallace stepped it up and really I thought the younger guys were the ones to let him down yesterday (yes even Cunningham).

Slightly Happy/Slightly Not = I did like some of Nelson’s drive and fire at certain points. It reminded me a lot of Cunningham last year, and Nelson had some drives that were looking good but ended up just being a step behind in making the play happen and ended up in those charging calls. It did end up costing the team some momentum here and there but he does seem to have the potential if he can figure out the game speed like Cunningham has seemed to have done.

Very Disappointed = Losing to the ducks. For me personally I dislike UW much worse in basketball but at least UW is a very good team.

Anyway those are some of my additional thoughts and my final thoughts for this game.

-RVM

by rvm on Jan 23, 2011 9:12 AM PST reply actions  

About game management,

I agree, and noted that there were some questionable moves mid-game.

But the move to give more than typical minutes and looks to Lathan Wallace was instrumental in getting back to a 4 point lead.

The defense in the second half also limited Oregon’s free throw opportunities, and kept the Beavers out of foul trouble, until it reached the point where it became necessary to foul. Oregon St., due to not having fouled, had to use 4 fouls, and did so in pretty short order.

I agreed with having Roberto Nelson on the floor late, as he has the ability to get out on run-out opportunities as Jared Cunningham’s wing man. No one else Craig Robinson has can really
match him.

And despite being down 7 points with a minute and a half left, Oregon St. was still within 2 points with 9 seconds left. After everything else was washed away, the difference in the game was the Beavers missing their last 2 shots plus 6 layins in the last 4 minutes or so. If the Beavers hit even 50% on those layins, shots high school teams should hit about 70% of the time, we would have been talking about one of the best comebacks in Civil War history.

Andy Wooldridge, andy_wooldridge@yahoo.com
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by AndyPanda on Jan 23, 2011 7:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Agree mostly, but...

I didn’t think Burton’s lack of impact was all his fault. He had the inside man of Oregon’s zone posted up numerous times but we rarely got the ball to him. I especially remember it late because I remember screaming at the TV like a madman, “Middle, middle, middle!” Tragically, no one heard me.

Not to say Burton didn’t make mistakes; he definitely took some chances he shouldn’t have on defense, but I have to think that was because the Ducks were killing us from the arc. Of course, that wouldn’t have been a problem if they’d just… gone… MAN-TO-MAN. But that’s been covered.

There was also the embarrassing cross-over that my 3-year-old nephew could have poked out. Again though, I don’t totally blame him. His game does not extend to the arc, he should not be asked to take it there, and, again, they should have gotten the ball to him on the post.

by kriskrosed on Jan 24, 2011 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I have to be honest and I find myself mixed on Burton. I think at times he looks engaged and into the game and at other times he, to be probably unfair, looks like he is phoning it home. That said yes I agree that the ball needs to get to him more, but if things don’t go his way he needs to keep grinding, get the rebounds and such that is what it means to be a big man in the NCAA. Take Vucevic as an example and he gets A LOT of rebounds and loose balls by being mentally in the game. Yes SC does a fairly good job getting him the ball but he also gets a nice amount of garbage by paying attention and staying in the play.

I don’t know, for the most I like him and hope I’m wrong but along with others on the team he just doesn’t seem to have the full mental stamina quite in place yet.

But to take your, and his, side yes I do think the ball handlers do not get the ball to the post enough. Especially poor play in finding the posted up man against a team we actually matched up well on the inside.

-RVM

by rvm on Jan 24, 2011 4:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I think at times he looks engaged and into the game and at other times he, to be probably unfair, looks like he is phoning it home.

I’d be lying if I said I never questioned his concentration. I admit to getting flustered watching him have a game like ‘Zona then turn around and have a game like UCLA. My intent was not to defend his season, but solely his game against the Ducks. Burton was the perfect man to beat that zone (ball to middle, collapse zone, kick out for assists), but the Beavs didn’t even use him.

But no, as a whole you’re right, he needs to get more aggressive. I don’t think he’s tall enough to have the impact Vucevic does, but he’s big and nimble enough to have an impact nonetheless. I still give him a pass because he’s only a sophomore, but, like you, I think he has more potential. We’ll see.

by kriskrosed on Jan 24, 2011 6:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep, totally understand where you are coming from and I think I actually agree in whole. I think I was more about clearing up my criticism of Burton’s play. And yes I totally don’t want to let the other players off the hook for not utilizing the mis-match we had against UO’s zone on the inside.

-RVM

by rvm on Jan 25, 2011 9:13 AM PST up reply actions  

It's about that time of season

when college basketball teams “jell,” when they figure out who they are and what they can do together. The players have adjusted to the coaching staff and one another. They’re comfortable with their roles and everybody else’s. They’ve settled into a routine of practice, games, girlfriends, and school. They’ve accepted their destiny to battle it out for conference supremacy and post-season glory, or to take their punishment from better teams and find satisfaction in little things, like keeping their losing margins under ten points.

It was evident in the Beavers performance last night that they have not jelled, that they do not know who they are or what they can do together, that they have not adjusted to the coaching staff and one another, that they are as unsure about their roles and their destiny as they were at the beginning of the season.

That makes the losses even tougher on the fans, because we see flashes of brilliance between longer periods of confusion and ineptitude, so we continue to have hope long past the time when we should have given up on the team. We know that OSU will not challenge Washington and UCLA this year, but we’d like to think the Beavers can still take some games from the rest of the conference. If OSU can’t win at home against Oregon, and since the team doesn’t play well on the road, just who can the Beavers expect to defeat in the remainder of this campaign?

by fanoverboard on Jan 23, 2011 11:46 AM PST reply actions  

Who knows were they go from here???

And I kind of wonder why CR would abandon a system of offense that had some success the first two years(and when he was at Brown) just because you think you are more athletic? If you believe in your system I would think better athletes would make the system even better, right? Angus Brandt seem liks a solid candidate to run the point center spot and just think how far down the road he would be in his developement if that was the offense this year. I look at a program like Wisconsin, I would guess they have just as good of athletes as the Beavers yet they play the same slow down offense year after year to pretty impressive success. Why could that not be the Beaver identity? CR can recruit all he wants, but I doubt he will even quite get to a level of UA or UCLA in the long run.

On the defensive side, I am confused. I guess Seth Tarver was just that good or smart in the zones. Was it lighting in a bottle? At this point, it is hard to deny that most teams are loving the open three looks they get against the Beavs zones and they are cashing in big time. I thought CR was brillant when he went to the man to man against the Ducks. They looked totally befuddled and the Beavs showed more energy than they had all game. Why use it for just those 4 minutes? Sims and Singler are different players when they cannot spot up. Damn, this had been a confusing, frustrating season.

by mckalk on Jan 23, 2011 1:01 PM PST reply actions  

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