Boise State dirty hits are troubling

I have it recorded and James continues to do dirty stuff on the ground( he was there most of the time). Watch the game again with and playback when James keeps getting rocked. He gets up all mad with attitude and the more times I watch the more I see dirty dirty stuff which provoked aggresive behavior. You play dirty like that someone is gonna nail ya, and thats exactly what happened. But the helmet to helmet wasn’t intentional, but the more of the game I rewatch the more I see why the Broncos were playing so agressively.

but that hit wasn’t intentional…….

Yeah the Masoli hit was illegal and the hit later in the game. No one is denying that.

But don’t sit here without having a recorded game to watch and playback and say Oregon St. wan’t provoking the Broncos. If you were sitting here with me, you’d have to agree or everyone would laugh at you if you couldn’t obviousl seeing James getting dirty.

like I said before, BSU was playing aggressively and Ore St. was doing things to provoke them. I’m sure there was more going on than what is on TV as well. The difference is that some of the dirty stuff was right in front of the camera and some wasn’t.

I know the WAC is reviewing the james play but there is no way they could actually do something b/c it you watch it in real time theres no way Venable had enough time to intentionally spear head, like I said, he saw James and covered.

I’ll see if I can get more video but the more stuff I find the worse it makes you Beav fans look when I can show your team doing stuff. I would suggest to all of you to realize this is football and things happen and b4 you go out to demonize a team for playing hard and picking up penalties you make sure the other team isn’t doing stuff to provoke them. I’ll look for more.

Yes, you are very right that attacks make people defensive, especially when it comes to sports. If I were appealing to Broncos in my post, I would definitely have taken a different tone. The more vehemently one says something that another person disagrees with initially, the more entrenched that person’s views become, which is counterproductive. I have to admit I was more blowing steam and venting my frustrations at what I saw BSU do in the games I’ve watched.

However, that was two years ago, and I hardly think that it’s sufficient evidence to say our team (or coach) is dirty.

Half of me says you’re absolutely right. Non-Broncos like me, though, rarely see your team outside of these AQ-opponent games, so each one makes up a large part of our view of the program. We can only go off of what we see.

Coach Pete made several statements about how that’s not how we play

I was probably overly harsh in my original title, as I don’t think CP is a bad guy. I do think some of his defensive players have been way out of control and put other people at unnecessary risk. I’m sure the coach really doesn’t mean to condone that behavior… but when I see other players giving fives and congrats to the ejected player as he’s leaving, I have to wonder about the team’s mentality about that kind of play. I believe Coach Petersen doesn’t truly want his players to engage in dirty/dangerous behavior, but he doesn’t seem to be doing enough to stop it (Venable being the prime example. I have not seen a worse dirty hit in college football than that 2009 hit.) He really needs to take these dangerous hits more seriously before someone gets very critically injured.

Does that mean they are young, and need to learn more discipline? Yes! Does that mean they are deliberately trying to injure other players (that’s what I take ‘dirty’ to mean)? NO!

I guess we can never know the intentions for sure… only the players do. As a Bronco, you’ll give your team more of the benefit of the doubt on a questionable hit, and as an opposing Beaver, I’ll give less, and vice-versa. I really hope they’re not trying to injure and that it is just emotion and lack of discipline.

I’m not looking to pile on BSU. I really do get concerned about injuries to the players. Football is violent enough, and injuries are part of the game. I remember watching the OSU at Cal game last year, where Jahvid Best hurdled a defender to get into the endzone, unfortunately at the same time another defender was about to make contact. Best ended up flipping in mid-air and landed on his back/neck, receiving a season-ending and VERY scary-looking concussion of the “is he going to die?” type (in case you don’t remember, video here) It was a clean-yet-unfortunate hit, and the injury really tuned me in to the risk the players take on the field. That’s why it irritates me when hits that are against the rules and not even supposed to be part of the game lead to extra injuries. People can really get hurt.

I hope you can come to know our program a bit better in the future, and see that we are not a dirty team.

Maybe I have a semantics issue here, since I don’t think most of the players on the team are dirty. It’s just a cycle of bad seeds on defense over the years. The ice cream analogy illustrates why I said Boise State was “dirty”, but that’s not really in the spirit of meaningful, understanding dialogue with Bronco Nation, so I’ll eat those words and stick to a more specific “some defenders make too many dirty hits”.

Since you showed that BSU fans can be reasonable about the accusations and seem like a good guy, I’ll open my mind back up to the Broncos a bit :-) I’ve also edited my original post to be less combative and more precise.

Sorry about the Pac-10 thing though… That’s not gonna happen :-p

but it’s WAY more than it should be.