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Another "second chance" athlete at OSU in trouble.

Embarrassing.

The parallels between Covington and Lalich are uncanny. The two stories make me wonder if it's really worth gambling on a young guy trying to get his life back together. (If you didn't know, Colby had alcohol related issues at his past school, Iowa. A highly touted JC wrestler, he returned home to Oregon after being booted.) The success stories of these cases are unnoticeable and, while great, still fly under the radar.

On the other end of the spectrum, the crap floats to the top. Does the athletic department really want to continue with the whole rehab center function? Let these kids find opportunities elsewhere is all I'm saying.

And let's hope Shiloah Te'o (BYU transfer, dismissed over DUII charge) is paying attention. And let's hope that Covington isn't guilty.

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I understand your points, and somewhat agree

But I think my question becomes: Okay, but there are many students at the university who are getting second, third, and so on chances and why single out athletes for stricter standards?

By that I don’t mean after they do something on our campus after being given the chance, but from what I’m reading here you are saying not even give them the second chance in the first place.

I know the first answer would be: Well, because the athletes are basically being paid to attend and many of the other students are having to pay their way. But I personally think this simplifies the dynamic a bit too much and wonder where the line is for double standards versus legitimate concerns.

By the way I don’t have an answer, and I’m mostly thinking aloud here from my own mixed feelings about it all.

-RVM

by rvm on Jun 2, 2010 10:48 AM PDT reply actions  

I understand what you're saying. I'm just so frustrated.

I know I can’t expect these kids to be perfect—that’s ridiculous. It’s just annoying to see these kids get a second chance and make more mistakes. The need to understand that with all the privilege comes a world of responsibility. People know who you are and will watch you closely. You don’t get to screw around like a normal college student and this is even more true when you’re on your second program.

I don’t know. I just wish these kids would “get it” and stop this crap.

Now get off my lawn!

by ArbyOSU on Jun 2, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lawn? I'm not your duck neighbor!

Seriously though, I actually agree with much of what you are getting at. I just think the privilege comes with all students in college, a good number are getting some pretty sweet deals to go to college too that are non-athletic based. Then you throw in who really drives the “public face” expectations of student athletes? Who should? I think a lot of really comes from us the fans and maybe that is not really who “should.” If any of that made any sense!

I don’t know either, it frustrates the hell out of me too, but I’m trying personally to step back a little bit on it all.

-RVM

by rvm on Jun 2, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

You make good points. It’s a mess and I hope for the kid’s sake that this is sorted out once the facts come in.

Oh, the lawn reference was from Gran Torino—these kids and their mistakes make me feel like an old man and I’m not even 30 yet. Jeez…

by ArbyOSU on Jun 2, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

All I knew is it had something to do with being old!

Got it now, see showing my man traits too, sloooowwww on the uptake of your pop culture references!

-RVM

by rvm on Jun 2, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, it really is that simple

If others are paying for your schooling, it is absolutely a different standard. Yeah, seems unfair, kids will be kids, blah blah but the bottom line is that it is what it is. You screw up, your deal gets bunched. This is not a shock. When these chumps step on their d*ck for the third or so time, they don’t think they DESERVE another chance, they’re just HOPING for another chance because of pity or some other twisted aspect of mercy. That don’t cut it with Joe A. No sirree Bob.

You know, statistically I would question whether getting arrested by the police for violent crimes falls under the category of “aw shucks, you know how it was when you were young.” I was never arrested. Nobody I would call a friend or acquaintance was arrested. We didn’t get into fights. It wasn’t that common, not even around the bars. Again, talking about odds, it’s statistically very easy to not get into fights. I’m just sayin’.

by Joe A. on Jun 2, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was more talking about whether or not a player like Lalich (I don’t know much about Covington and his situation) should be given the “second” chance to play here at OSU in the first place, not really about him messing up after that chance is given.

For yes I very much think someone like these two players have indeed given up their privileged arrangements by the actions they have taken under the trust of the university.

Glad you have such a clean background though, me, well I’m glad for second chances.

-RVM

by rvm on Jun 4, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

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