Game 14 Preview and Open Thread: Seattle U
by Jake Bertalotto on Jan 6, 2010 3:48 PM PST
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PrintSeattle Redhawks at Oregon St. Beavers, Jan 6, 2010 5:30 PM PST
Oregon State vs. Seattle U / 5:30PM / TV on FSN NW
Pac-10 play is just one week old, but it already feels like the Beavers are in the thick of the schedule, as they've been on the losing end of two close games and just finished a grueling weekend of basketball.
That's why what should be a mid-week confidence builder like the Beavers have tonight is a good thing before Pac-10 play resumes in Eugene on Sunday. If the Beavers win, of course.
Seattle U is 6-9 on the season, and has lost four straight entering tonight's game. Their most recent lost came at the hands of Harvard, who beat the Redhawks 92-71. A common opponent to both OSU and Seattle's schedules in Fresno State, a team in which the Beavers beat convincingly two weeks ago. Seattle also beat the Bulldogs, squaking out a 85-85 win back in mid-November.
A quick glance at the statistics for the Redhawks show that their weakness is on defense. They're giving up a very high field goal percentage, and opponents are getting to the line at a relitively alarming rate.
It's interesting to not that the Redhawks are more reliant upon one player than any other team in the nation, and that guy is their 6-9 junior center, Charles Garcia. Garcia is averaging 23 points per game and has 10 rebounds, and is involved in 37-percent of Seattle U's offensive possession, the statistic in which leads the nation. Garcia is one of the best defensive rebounders in the league, and although he hasn't been picking up offensive rebounds at as high of a clip, he will be a challenge for the Beaver defense to box out for sure.
Rounding out the starting lineup:
Chris Gweth, 6-1 senior, 11 points per game
Aaron Broussard, 6-5 sophomore, 10 points per game, 9 rebounds
Cervante Burrell, 5-10 sophomore, 10 points per game, 4 assits
Mike Boxley, 6-5 senior, 9 points per game
Tipoff is set for just a few minutes after 5:30 on FSN Northwest. Feel free to jump into the comment thread with your game observations. I'll have my postgame thoughts up within a few hours of the game's culmination.
--Jake (jake.buildingthedam@gmail.com)
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Strange feeling about this game
On one hand Seattle, looks like a team that we should handle easily. But on the other hand, I feel like we might overlook this game in anticipation for Oregon. And we also have our issues with playing up or down to the level of our competition.
Cal didn't have DJaxFIRST
9 different NBA teams are being represented tonight
To watch Charles Garcia.
Cal didn't have DJaxFIRST
Deane goes to the floor
And is called for the foul. Man, I love Pac-10 officiating.
Cal didn't have DJaxFIRST
is that Roberto Nelson sitting behind the bench?
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
Super Rodgers Bros.
#52
So much for Jake's analysis
that Seattle is more dependent on Charles Garcia than any other team is on one player!
Andy Wooldridge, andy_wooldridge@yahoo.com
Go Beavs!
I know it...
that went down the toilet pretty fast once he got into foul trouble. Sheesh.
--Jake | (jake.buildingthedam@gmail.com)
by Jake Bertalotto on Jan 7, 2010 6:40 AM PST up reply actions
Horrible first half for the Beavers
We are leaving them open for threes and they keep on hitting them. How hard is it to adjust to that? Besides a couple turnovers, that’s the only reason their winning. This better be like the Sacramento State game where we come back in the 2nd Half.
Cal didn't have DJaxFIRST
Can anyone (I guess that means you Connor!)?
Explain to me how the Beavs are losing this game? There is no reason Seattle U should be winning by this much or even winning this game. The Beavs could easily take it to them but they look flat and terrible so far.
-RVM
See my comments above
Also, we might of been to focused on covering Charles Garcia that we forgot about every other freaking player on their team. I don’t know, maybe we’re just a lot worse then I thought.
Cal didn't have DJaxFIRST
That half pissed me off
This team needs to light a fire under their asses and figure it out.
Yeah, I saw those after I posted and agree but still it looked like the Beavs could take the ball into the paint at will and they just seemed to cash it in mentally. Seattle U ain’t just going to hand to you because you all are some big bad Pac-10 team take it to them and show that you are indeed a bad ass big conference team, okay I’m grumpy.
-RVM
by rvm on Jan 6, 2010 6:28 PM PST up reply actions
NCAA Tourney berth Killer
gotta win the Pac-10 tourney now…
woow.
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
Super Rodgers Bros.
#52
I don't usually do this
But may have to turn this off and log off and do something else, this is pathetic, they are completely phoning this game in from the North Pole or something.
-RVM
At least he's showing some heart
Glad Haynes finally went out, come on get off your flat-footed half spirited play Calvin, you should be a team leader and I don’t care how bad it is going. And yes can’t believe I wanted to see him on the bench.
-RVM
by rvm on Jan 6, 2010 6:54 PM PST up reply actions
Just turned on the TV
what the hell is going on there?
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog
The Ducks can win by forefeit SC style if we keep playing like this?
-RVM
by rvm on Jan 6, 2010 6:56 PM PST up reply actions
seriously though
it makes me that much more scared to play you. Our guys will get cocky. Your guys will be pissed.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog
it's all part of the plan...
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
Super Rodgers Bros.
#52
Oh, and
1. Can’t rebound on either side of the court.
2. Can’t make shots from the outside.
3. Can’t take advantage of mismatches.
4. Can’t guard three-point shooters.
5. Can’t get off their heels on drives by the other team.
6. Can’t finish any shot under ten feet.
7. Can’t play defense without seeming to foul.
8. Can’t hold onto the ball.
Need any others?
-RVM
by rvm on Jan 6, 2010 6:58 PM PST up reply actions
Even the refs seem to be giving us some charity calls/non-calls now
and still getting smoked
-RVM
by rvm on Jan 6, 2010 7:02 PM PST up reply actions
dont wanna give away our gameplan for sunday
running the vanilla stuff. you know…
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
Super Rodgers Bros.
#52
lol
ridiculous
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
Super Rodgers Bros.
#52
That's all for me
Normally I would stick with it just to be a good fan, but (and I apologize to everyone here and if you are sensitive please stop reading now) as Connor would say that was fucking ridiculous, I mean if they sneaked up on the Beavs and even beat us by 9 or 10 I could be so-so okay about it, but that was sick. I’m very disappointed by the returning main players, the freshman turnovers are going to happen, and also just playing a bad game can happen but that was just fucking embarrassing how much they seemed to lack motivation (Roeland and Calvin especially). I’ll try and regroup myself by Sunday, here’s hoping the team regroups much more.
-RVM
cant blame you
i started watching the kansas cornell game on espn2 because it was pretty close. far more interesting than the garbage on fsn
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
Super Rodgers Bros.
#52
Cornell was winning all game
but Kansas won it in the final minute
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
Super Rodgers Bros.
#52
Yep, thanks both of you
Sorry about hanging for it, but I wouldn’t have anything good to say so might as well quit now before I say a bunch I’ll regret later, man I am not a happy camper.
-RVM
by rvm on Jan 6, 2010 7:21 PM PST up reply actions
Guess it is my turn to apologize to Jake, sorry man got carried away in the moment, like the mantra goes feel free to delete this comment if needed. I really thought about being clever about my swearing, and ribbing Connor at the same time, but then just got typing and Seattle U kept on scoring and it rolled downhill…
-RVM
what's the largest home loss ever?
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
Super Rodgers Bros.
#52
Don’t know, but saw on the web that Kate Gosselin has a new hair style going…wow, are we even going to post the final score?
-RVM
by rvm on Jan 6, 2010 7:25 PM PST up reply actions
interesting to see what Robinson says about this debacle
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
Super Rodgers Bros.
#52
99-48
“On one hand Seattle, looks like a team that we should handle easily. But on the other hand, I feel like we might overlook this game in anticipation for Oregon. And we also have our issues with playing up or down to the level of our competition.”
Or maybe they’re just a horrible basketball team. Not so much horrible, as one which has never heard of the word “rebound” but have definitely heard of and are very good at the word “turnover”.
And its not really a debacle. Happens all the time for the beavers.
horrible teams don't hang with the washington teams on the road
they need a sports psychologist or something though, because their mindset is awful
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
Super Rodgers Bros.
#52
Overlooking is one thing.
Overlooking is losing to Seattle U at home by 2 after swapping leads for a while.
This is like nothing I’ve ever seen before, and I thought I’d seen anything when my team lost to Montana at home earlier by 20.
Addicted To Quack [dot] com
I have a Ropert is God™ complex.
yeah i mean I'm not here to troll or say anything really
but I’m kind of uneasy seeing you guys downplaying this. you lost to seattle by 51 points. I’m not sure the supersonics ever beat anyone by 50. I know i’d be pulling my hair out wondering what the hell happened. I myself are a little worried cause they (should) be full of fire sunday, hope to see the real beavers then
The beloved creator of Sandwich music.
We're in a state of shock
And if we had any words to describe it they would probably start with the letters F or S.
Cal didn't have DJaxFIRST
in a sense its good that it wasn't a pac 10 game
but its just as disconcering that it wasn’t in other ways.
The beloved creator of Sandwich music.
you really need to have some tact.
You don’t get to come onto another team’s blog and get on them for not being mad enough. It obnoxious.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog
Yep, not a big deal for me either tonight
The team lost by 50 points and so there is a bit of what the heck is going on and getting really mad then it just becomes too surreal so what are you going to do? I’m not playing or coaching so got to let it go, it’s just a basketball game and I have work tomorrow, life goes on. But I guess I can see why someone might be confused there isn’t a lot of up in arms about it all for that was just insane. I was going all Connor at one point then just had to let it all go so nothing really left to get mad at, even fans from other teams giving us grief about not getting mad! Though it seems like the Seattle U people should be the ones doing the smack talking!
-RVM
Horrible game for the Beavers
We’re not a horrible team, but we are pretty awful. I could say a lot more, but I think I might regret it later.
Hey, at least it’s not a Pac-10 game.
Cal didn't have DJaxFIRST
What the ????
I thought the game was on at 7pm, so I ran up stairs to turn it on and realized it started at 5:30 pm. When I saw the score I thought I had actually stroked out and was dreaming this debacle. Come on this is a D-1 transitional team. Actually, there is precedent. When I lived in Salt Lake, Utah Valley St beat Arizona St, but I think ASU was really bad that year and they beat them by less than ten points. A 51 point loss is unexplainable.
If you discover any answers tonight in your dreams or tomorrow with a clear head
Let me know, I can’t explain it at all.
-RVM
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California Golden Bears
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Washington Huskies
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Oregon Ducks
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8 | 4 | 17 | 8 |
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Colorado Buffaloes
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8 | 4 | 16 | 8 |
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7 | 5 | 14 | 10 |
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Stanford Cardinal
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Washington St. Cougars
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