Connor's thoughts on the Cincinnati Game
by ConnorOSU on Sep 21, 2009 9:42 PM PDT
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PrintThe Bearcats defeated Oregon State 28-18 on a sunny, crisp afternoon in Corvallis. Here are my thoughts on the game.
Quarterback
Sean Canfield threw for 240 yards and no touchdowns yesterday. He went 29 for 45 with an interception. The key stat of the day though was the five sacks that Sean took. He has got to be more mobile in the pocket and throw the ball away. I know he's not exactly like Locker, Tebow, or even Moevao, but we heard all Summer how Sean had lost 20 pounds, was more light on his feet, and could scramble away from tthe opposing defense.
Do I think it's time to jump ship on Canfield yet? No. Let's not forget that Canfield led the nation in completion percentage coming into this game. He is a good QB, he just had a rough game. But, if I don't see improvement from Sean after Saturday I think it's time to give Moevao the keys.
His interception wasn't really his fault, as the reciever got popped and let go of the ball. His throws looked pretty sharp, even though some of them sailed on the wide out's a couple of times.
Overall, not a good game for Canfield. Let's give him a week to work on it, and then re-evaluate next Sunday.
Running Back
Jacquizz grinded out 73 yards on 20 carries for the Beavers. He also had Oregon State's only touchdown of the day.
Jacquizz didn't look as explosive as he has in the past two games, probably because of his lingering Sprained Ankle. Overall, it wasn't a bad day for Mr. Rodgers, but it wasn't that great either.
Recievers
James Rodgers and Damola Adeniji had great days. James with 90 yards on 11 catches and Damola with 5 catches for 57 yards. Little brother Jacquizz had a productive day catching the screen pass for 19 yards on 5 catches.
Joe Halahuni had a nice afternoon with 4 catches for 32 yards. Darrel Catchings returned after missing the first two games due to a wrist injury, but only had one catch for 18 yards. Overall, a pretty good day for the recieving corps. Hopefully, Catchings and Bishop will have a better game next week.
O-Line
Uh-oh. Plain and simple, the O-Line had a horrible game. We'll need to improve a lot at those positions if we want to make a run at a big-time bowl game this year.
They were not opening up holes for Quizz, and the Defense was getting to much pressure on Canfield. If they play like that again we might be in for a long year.
Defense
I thought our defense had a great game. Tim Clark and James Dockery had great games shutting down Marty Gillyard. We brought pressure on the QB, and for the most part contained the run. Keaton Kristick had a great inerception as well.
Overall, holding one of the best offense in the nation to only four TD's I thought was great. Mark Banker has us going in the right direction.
Special Teams
Our Special Teams was great once again, with an extra point, three field goals, two great punts, including one downed inside the one, and a great Kickoff return. It was also nice to see James returning most of the punts. He may not have the hands of Kavanaugh, but he is much more electric. Not much else to say here, but if our Special Teams continues to play like this, we could have a very good season.
Cincinnati
I thought the Bearcats had a pretty solid game on Saturday. Tony Pike was great as expected. I knew he could throw the long ball, but it amazed me how he would thread the ball in between our defenders.
Their defense was pretty good, especially with their backs up against the wall at the beginning of the fourth quarter when we were on the nine yardline. Overall, I thought they played a pretty good game. They should definitely be at the top of the Big East when the season comes to an end.
The Crowd
I thought the crowd was great on Saturday. Even though there was only 41,910 people, it was incredibly loud and raucous. I thought that the defense really fed off of the crowd noise especially on the safety.
The Beaver Dam was almost 100% full, which is always great to see as well. Even though we lost, I think that Giovanni Bernard should of been impressed with Reser and our fans.
Short Pac-10 Recap
Washington-The Dawgs had a great win over USC this weekend. Six or seven wins looks very possible for the UW.
Washington State-Well, at least they got a win. They defeated SMU, 30-27 in Overtime on Saturday.
Oregon-UO got a big win Saturday against Utah despite the play of QB Jeremiah Masoli. They host Cal on Saturday.
Oregon State-The Beavers played 3 good quarters against Cincy. They begin Pac-10 play against Arizzona next.
California-The Golden Bears continued to impress against Minnesota. Jahvid Best went off for 5 TD's in the win.
Stanford-The Cardinal took apart SJSU on Saturday. They take on Steve Sarkisian's Huskies on Saturday.
USC-Well, they always have to lose one Pac-10 game. USC fell 16-13 on Montlake Saturday.
UCLA-The Bruins defeated a pesky Kansas State squad 23-9 on Saturday. They have a bye this week.
Arizona-The Wildcats fell 27-17 in Iowa on Saturday. The 2-1 Wildcats visit Corvallis next.
Arizona State-ASU defeated ULM 38-14 on Saturday. We'll find out if they are for real when they take on UGA next.
Pac-10 Power Rankings
1. California
2. Washington
3. Oregon
4. UCLA
5. Oregon State
6. USC
7. Arizona
8. Stanford
9. Arizona State
10. Washington State
Final Thoughts
Every loss hurts, but Cincinnati is a good team and the Beavers didn't play up to their full potential. I felt like we didn't get many breaks which you always need to beat a good team like Cincy. We also got a lot of untimely penalties that hurt us A LOT.
Overall, the key is to get touchdowns instead of those field goals and we win the game, plain and simple. All you can do after a loss is take the positives, work on the negatives, and move on.
Poll Question
Does Washington deserve to be in the Top 25?
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Offensive Line
I agree the offensive line needs to improve.
But penalties are an area of improvement as well. Too many procedure calls on our offense.
Washington at Stanford a big game.
It will be the first test for the Huskies off Montlake. We will see how well they can travel their new-found enthusiasm. We will also see if Stanford is hype or not.
Cal at Oregon is the “potential” game of the week. Could be an ugly Duck if Cal seizes the opportunity and the Ducks don’t take some more strides offensively. Could be a season-altering event for most of the conference if the Ducks do take the next step and the Golden Bears pick this week to suffer their annual bad game.
Andy Wooldridge, andy_wooldridge@yahoo.com
Go Beavs!
they should wait until we travel to Berkeley
cause I will be in Memorial Stadium for that game
"Early to bed, early to rise, makes a woman healthy, wealthy, and wise. That's why you all are wiser than me. It's cloudydays."
Canfield
How can you suggest replacing Canfield? He has the arm, and it’s not his fault the line
is getting him killed.
Let’s get some decent play calling, and give this team a chance to stretch the field.
This whole 2 qb thing is a debacle. It rarely works, and Riley is playing with fire.
The O-Line is getting killed
But Sean has to learn to throw the ball away. I didn’t suggest going to a 2 QB system. I know that never works. I said to give Canfield one more week, and if he doesn’t improve then give the keys to Moevao. The only thing that Sean does better than Lyle is throw the deep ball, and if Riley won’t call for that, then you’re right, that’s not his fault.
Lyle has better leadership qualities, is more mobile, and is sharper with his throws. You just can’t afford to lose two games in a row in the Pac-10 becuase of QB play.
Hi, my name's Connor and I am addicted to College Football
C'mon let's stop
with the QB controversy thing. If canfield and Moevao are okay with it, and support each other, then there must not be a problem. I don’t think you can play the “Play Calling Card” here either. It seems to me the right plays were called, they just weren’t executed properly. There were guys lined up wrong and missed reads. In my opinion (and it really isn’t worth much) is that it was a case of team wide mental flatulence. GO BEAV’s!! Castrate the ’Cats!
Just kinda curious if anyone has ever experienced this. It seems everytime we play a big home game and I yell my a$$ off I always get a sinus infection. Just got back from the doc and he confirmed another one. I got one after the USC game last year and the trend has been going on for at least 5-6 years. My doctor looked at me crazy when I told him, but it’s happened too many times to just be coincedence. Anyone on here got any input or ideas. (stopping yelling at big games, not an option)
by fishinbeaverguy on Sep 22, 2009 12:55 PM PDT reply actions
Naw I get really bad headaches and lose my voice really easily.
But sinus infections don’t really surprise me.
by HighSchoolQuarterback on Sep 22, 2009 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m pretty sure that due to the fact that loud noise was coming out of my mouth that I was yelling with my vocal chords. Is there any other way to yell?
by fishinbeaverguy on Sep 23, 2009 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Are you kidding me?
What’s there for Sean to improve on? Are you suggesting that in the last five months of practices he hasn’t improved his footwork but based on what happened Saturday he’s suddenly going to find some previously undiscovered Fran Tarkenton-like scrambling skills?
I submit that what you see right now is what you’re gonna get. Now, throwing the ball away…I can get behind that idea. Or at least having a better safety-valve type option – I like the short middle pass to Quizz. I remember LOTS of vitriol aimed at Derek Anderson for throwing a bagful of INTs on occasion. Same for Matt Moore. Would pulling these guys have been the answer? I’m just saying it’s way, way, WAY too early to even TALK about a QB change. That’s throwing in the towel crap. I’ve said it before…I like Lyle’s style, he’s probably a better team leader, I wish Sean had more fire, but all my wishes for a perfect QB are not pertinent.
Not the best game, but nothing to cause serious rock-kicking. Let’s use the UC game film to iron some stuff out and get ready to show the betting line clowns why the current spread is laughably upside down.
I wish Sean had more fire, but all my wishes for a perfect QB are not pertinent.
But the thing here is this is not asking for perfection, Canfield showed a good amount of fire last year at times. I agree though, and even though Canfield has not yet totally impressed me that’s just me and yes way too early to even be thinking about a change. He needs to stay in there otherwise he isn’t going to improve on the bench.
The INT thing with Anderson and Moore though I don’t think is a great example. I remember Moore actually getting pulled in the UW game for a bit and he came back in on fire and never looked back so that (sure it was not a full game) pulling actually seemed to work. Anderson, of course not, but that vitriol was sometimes well deserved for that guy just likes to chuck the ball in there no matter what and it did cost us at times.
I think what Connor is getting at is different and it goes back to the fire, leadership, and confidence, which the argument could be made that Moevao seems to bring to the team. I see some logic to this actually, but I still think Canfield is the QB and we can’t just flip between QBs every game to see which one might bring that fire to field. Canfield needs to improve but so does the entire team, I’m betting it will happen.
-RVM
I'm not saying to switch QB's whenever they have a bad game
Just saying that Lyle was our starter before the injury, and if he is 100% and Sean is struggling, why not put the ball in his hands?
Hi, my name's Connor and I am addicted to College Football
Okay, honestly at a personal level
I actually am in the Moevao camp, I like what he brings to the program, and I have been underwhelmed by Canfield’s play overall.
BUT Riley has gone with Canfield and he isn’t “struggling” really (I think the entire offense is struggling) and I think Canfield has enough potential that this all means to stay with him. If Canfield goes all bad news and the O-line starts to protect him and he starts throwing a lot of INTs because he still zeroes only in on James and Quizz, can’t still get his throws down, still can’t throw it away properly, and he is the obvious reason for losses then time to look to the proven number two.
But, again honestly, I don’t think we are even at the point to be thinking/talking about a change.
-RVM
I know
I think we just have different definitions of struggling.
Hi, my name's Connor and I am addicted to College Football
Tell ya what
let’s wait a couple games and when Canfield is throwing for 300 yards+ and lighting it up then you and I can agree about how much we can’t see anyone else in there and how much we are in the Canfield fanclub!
Deal?
-RVM
more seriously though
Don’t get me wrong I think he is struggling (the difference between him and Pike in that Cincy game was pretty striking if you ask me), but at this point in time I don’t think he is the main problem for the offense. So not sure if Lyle was in there it would make a ton of difference. And yes I’m not sure I see him struggling quite as much as you do. I think he needs to take a bit more charge, get pissed at his line when they miss assignments! Decide to fire some cannons down the field!
So, let’s see how he does the next few games.
-RVM
But
I think I’m very Riley like in that I don’t like having a team/coach switch on their stated starting QB unless it becomes REALLY bad or they get hurt. Make the choice and stick with it.
I mean Sean hasn’t played horrible and he hasn’t even got to conference play yet.
-RVM
That's what I'm sayin'
Watching Canfield not have a good game is no fun. Pulling him is also worrisome. The job of the coaches is to take two not-so-good scenarios and picking the the least worst. I suggest that the easiest thing to do from a coaching perspective is to replace a player. Who would blame you?…you want some change and if it doesn’t work out you can always fall back on the “we had to do SOMETHING” excuse. I think sticking with a QB who’s had a bad game when there’s an equally good QB waiting in the wings is a hard thing to do. It’s more than football….teams and players come and go, but it’s better for the WHOLE team if the coach supports a player and doesn’t throw him under the bus.
I like Lyle and would be a liar if I didn’t admit I’d like to see him in there just to, you know, find out what would happen. But I don’t know the whole picture. Sitting here as a fan removed from the whole situation, I have no way of knowing what the real deal is. What do the other offensive players think of each QB? Do they have a preference? What are the little details about the whole situation that only the coaches and players know? I guess what I’m saying is I think Riley is a good coach and I trust his judgment. If he pulled Sean for Lyle even if Sean isn’t “struggling” per se I would be happy to view my earlier opinions as crap because I know Riley knows his stuff and there’s a helluva lot of particulars I don’t know about.
Let’s not ignore the risk of a QB change…if Lyle doesn’t do well, now you’ve got two problems and some psych damage. I’m not sure why we’d assume Lyle would be the Second Coming just because Coach calls his number. I mean, I’d hope he would be, but that’s just because I’m a stupid fan.
Coaching
Let me start by saying I love MIke R. But the fact is, he and his coordinators have not done enough to help the Beavers win this year. They must understand the limitations of the offensive line, yet they have not done anything to improved Canfield’s chances for success. They have not rolled him out, deepened his drop or put a running play in for him to take the pressure off. Also the coaches seem able to make adjustments at half time, but can not during the course of the game. Finally, if the coaches are going to have throw away plays, like at the end of the half of the Cincy game (third and 34) they should not ask Jaquizz to take the punishment. The guy is going to take enough hits as it is during the season. Riley is a great coach for the Beavers, but he can sharpen his game too.
I'm in the Moevao camp too
He brings alot to the field. The one thing that seems troublesome is the number of throws that were batted down last season. I’m guessing, but I think Lyle will be playng the second half if Sean struggles early. I surely mean no disrespect to any Beaver Fan, but I read somewhere on monday that there are quite a few BIG donors in the Boxes that are in the Canfield camp. Maybe the coaching staff is giving Sean every chance that they can to show his stuff. However, all of Beaver Nation knows how important it is to win the conference games. Again I have to say that I hope and I am confident that the Beavs will step it up a notch this Saturday.
I'm pretty sure
That Canfield will play the whole game unless he throws like three INT’s in the 1st half.
Hi, my name's Connor and I am addicted to College Football
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