A Rose Bowl Rule You Probably Didn't Know

There is a rule in the BCS system pertaining to who goes to the Rose Bowl most PAC 10 and Big 10 fans don't know about, one that could result in a USC-Boise St. Rose Bowl down the road.
Or could exclude a PAC 10 team, like the Beavers.
Confusion seems to be woven into the BCS fabric, and this yet another example.
The Big 10 and PAC 10 champions for years have been contractually bound to play in the Rose Bowl. With the inception of the BCS, the only exception was if one of those teams qualifies for the national championship game.
In the past, if one of those traditional Rose Bowl' opponents was selected for the national championship game, the Rose Bowl could take the conference's second place team, regardless of record or ranking, preserving the traditional matchup.
That happened in 2008, when Ohio State played for the national title, and Illinois came west to face USC.
The Big Ten, Big East, Big 12, Atlantic Coast Conference, Southeastern Conference and Pac-10 champions, as everyone knows, receive automatic bids to the five BCS games. The champions from the Mountain West Conference, Western Athletic Conference, Conference USA, Sun Belt and Mid-American Conference do not get an automatic entry into the BCS games, but they can play their way in. Utah from the Mt. West, and Hawaii and Boise State from the WAC have done that in recent years. That can reduce the number of at-large qualifiers, even though there could be a higher rated team from a BCS conference.
The recent appearances of Utah against Georgia in this year's Sugar Bowl, where Utah beat Alabama, and the 2005 and 2007 Fiesta Bowls, when Utah beat Pitt and Boise St. defeated Oklahoma, were cases where the non-BCS team was not a disadvantage to the bowl game involved.
But in the draw process that fills the BCS bowls, the Sugar Bowl was essentially "forced" to take a non-BCS team in Hawaii in the 2008 Sugar Bowl against Georgia. The selection was seen by the Sugar Bowl as hurting ratings, and the 41-10 humbling the Rainbow Warriors took from the Bulldogs made that fear a reality. This issue was addressed in the last round of television negotiations, resulting in bringing the Rose Bowl into the picture.
So starting with the 2011 game, if the the PAC 10 or Big Ten champion reaches the National Championship game, the Rose Bowl must fill the empty slot with a non-BCS team if that team is ranked No. 12 or higher. In 2008, it might have been Hawaii facing the Trojans on New Year's Day.
This is a one-time possibility, because once the Rose Bowl takes one non-BCS team, it has fulfilled its obligation, and can revert to the old rules until the current contract expires in 2014.
But it could exclude, say Oregon State from the Rose Bowl, and possibly any BCS bowl, if, say, USC wins the PAC 10 and is selected for the National Championship game, certainly a possibility, since that has already happened twice this decade, and the Beavers finish second, but maybe has a 10-2 record, due to maybe a loss in a couple of tough non-conference games. The 2012 season could set that up, when the Beavers are scheduled to face both Wisconsin and Boise St. And the Boise St. @ Oregon St. game scheduled for September 15, could be conceivably be for a Rose Bowl berth, in a non-conference game for both teams!
Imagine the talk-radio fodder that could produce!
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That's a stupid rule
So much for tradition. When you think about it, it’s amazing that the NCAA can put on such a great Basketball tournament when they can screw up rules like this.
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this is what happens, though
when the Rose Bowl makes the insane decision to put Illinois in the game based on said tradition.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog
Example Issue
You might want to change the theoretical example, since if OSU has 2 non-conference losses, they would be 9-0 in Pac-10 play and automatically get the Rose Bowl bid as conference champs. USC could still go to a national title game if they were 11-1 and in the Top 2 of the BCS, but OSU would get in the Rose Bowl automatically still as the conference champ. If they were 10-2 with one loss to Wisc/BSU and one to USC, then this comes into play.
Good catch.
I corrected the example, with what I meant to type (it’s too HOT to type right today!).
“…the Beavers finish second, but maybe has a 10-2 record, due to maybe a loss in a couple of tough non-conference games.”
In the example, they lose to USC, the projected conference winner, and after a tough game with Wisconsin, lose to Boise St., who runs the table.
But it could work the other way, lose to Wisconsin, beat a Boise team that still wins 10-11 games, and have Utah or TCU run the table, pushing OSU, Boise St., and maybe even that Wisconsin team (assume they are maybe 10-2 as well, with a loss in one other non-conference game, and one Big 10 loss, to the eventual Rose Bowl rep., say Ohio St.) too, all out of the BCS.
Because you know in a scenario like this, a second SEC and a second Big XII team will lobby their way in, and Notre Dame will whine their way in too.
That’s a lot that has to happen, but I think you can see how none of it is so far off as to be impossible.
:)
nice breakdown. What are the chances Oregon St. makes a rose bowl appearance this year?
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Honestly, I think the chances are slim of the Beavers going to the Rose Bowl.
That is an honest appraisal of the likelihood of climbing over USC, Cal, and Oregon, as well as holding off Arizona St. considering the Beavers have to play all of the rest of the top half of the PAC-10 on the road, and do it with numerous new players on defense, and an entirely re-tooled secondary.
Getting by some of them appears to be a very attainable goal, but it might take just one close loss in those four games for the Rose Bowl to slip out of their grasp.
The good news is, other than at QB, which fortunately the Beavers are very deep at, OSU will return a lot of starters, who will have gained a lot of experience this fall, in 2010, when the current schedule rotation returns all the tough games to Reser.
Until/unless the PAC-10 re-shuffles the schedule rotation, OR some other teams improve (Hello…Huskies?) or drop off (it WON’T be the Trojans), the Beavers are locked into a cycle where the best shots at the Rose Bowl may not align with their best teams.
Andy Wooldridge
Go Beavs!
Good Assessment
But it sounds like unless there is a shuffle in the schedule that we will never be ablet to make the Rose Bowl. The next three years I think we’ve got a good chance of making it.
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