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College Football Preview, Part 6 of 11

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Tortuga12 from Addicted to Quack and I will be doing a 11 part College Football Preview throughout the Summer. Today we will be ranking the conferences and classifying the teams. My classifications are compared to other teams in the conference and Tortuga's are compared to other teams in the country. Mine are in BOLD and Tortuga's are in regular font.

1. SEC

Elite Teams: Georgia, Alabama, Florida
Good Teams: Mississippi, South Carolina, LSU
So-So Teams: Tennessee, Mississippi, Vanderbilt
Mediocre Teams: Arkansas, Auburn, Kentucky
Bad Teams: None

2. Big 12

Elite Teams: Oklahoma, Missouri, Texas
Good Teams: Nebraska, Oklahoma State, Kansas
So-So Teams: Texas Tech, Kansas State, Iowa State
Mediocre Teams: Baylor, Colorado, Texas A&M
Bad Teams: None

3. Pac-10

Elite Teams: USC, Oregon
Good Teams: Arizona State, California
So-So Teams: Oregon State, Arizona
Mediocre Teams: Stanford, UCLA
Bad Teams: Washington, Washington State

4. ACC

Elite Teams: Virginia Tech, Florida State, Boston College
Good Teams: Georgia Tech, Wake Forest, Virginia
So-So Teams: Maryland, North Carolina, Clemson
Mediocre Teams: Miami (Florida), NC State, Duke
Bad Teams: None

5. WAC

Elite Teams: Boise State, Fresno State
Good Teams: Nevada, Louisiana Tech
So-So Teams: San Jose State, Hawaii
Mediocre Teams: New Mexico State, Utah State
Bad Teams: Idaho

6. Big 10

Elite Teams: Ohio State, Wisconsin
Good Teams: Penn State, Michigan State
So-So Teams: Illinois, Nortwestern
Mediocre Teams: Iowa, Minnesota
Bad Teams: Michigan, Purdue, Indiana

7. Big East

Elite Teams: Pittsburgh, West Virginia
Good Teams: Cincinnati, South Florida
So-So Teams: Connecticut, Rutgers
Mediocre Teams: Louisville, Syracuse
Bad Teams: None

8. Mountain West

Elite Teams: Utah, TCU
Good Teams: BYU, Air Force
So-So Teams: Colorado State, New Mexico
Mediocre Teams: UNLV, Wyoming
Bad Teams: San Diego State

9. MAC

Elite Teams: Ball State, Buffalo, Western Michigan 
Good Teams: Bowling Green, Northern Illinois, Temple 
So-So Teams: Central Michigan, Ohio, Toledo
Mediocre Teams: Akron, Eastern Michigan, Kent State
Bad Teams: Miami (Ohio)

10. C-USA

Elite Teams: Tulsa, East Carolina, UTEP
Good Teams: Southern Miss, UCF, Rice
So-So Teams: Marshall, Houston, Memphis
Mediocre Teams: Tulane, SMU, UAB
Bad Teams: None

11. Sun Belt

Elite Teams: Troy, Louisiana-Lafayette
Good Teams: Florida Atlantic, Arkansas State
So-So Teams: Louisiana-Monroe, Middle Tennessee State
Mediocre Teams: Florida International, North Texas
Bad Teams: Western Kentucky

Tortuga's rankings after the break. 

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1. SEC

Elite teams: Florida, Ole Miss, Alabama
Good teams: LSU, Georgia
So-so teams: Tennessee, Arkansas, South Carolina
Mediocre teams: Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Auburn, Mississippi St.
Bad: NONE

2. Big 12

Elite teams: Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State
Good teams: Nebraska, Kansas, Texas Tech
So-so teams: Missouri, Colorado
Mediocre teams: Baylor, Texas A&M
Bad teams: Kansas State, Iowa State
  
3. PAC-10

Elite teams: USC
Good teams: Oregon, California, Oregon State
So-so teams: Stanford, UCLA, ASU
Mediocre teams: Arizona
Bad teams: Washington, Washington State

4. Big 10

Elite teams:Ohio State
Good teams: Penn State, Michigan State, Iowa
So-so teams: Illinois, Michigan, Wisconsin
Mediocre teams: Northwestern, Minnesota
Bad teams: Purdue, Indiana

5. ACC

Elite teams: Virginia Tech
Good teams: Florida State, Georgia Tech
So-so teams: Wake ForestClemson, NC State, Miami, North Carolina
Mediocre teams: Maryland, Boston College
Bad teams: Virginia, Duke

6. MWC

Elite teams: NONE
Good teams: TCU, BYU, Utah
So-so teams: Air Force
Mediocre teams: Colorado State, UNLV
Bad teams:New Mexico, San Diego State, Wyoming

7. Big East

Elite teams: NONE
Good teams: Pittsburgh, West Virginia
So-so teams: Rutgers, South Florida,
Mediocre teams: Cincinnati, Connecticut
Bad teams: Syracuse, Louisville
 
8. WAC

Elite teams:Boise State
Good teams: NONE
So-so teams: Nevada, Fresno State, Louisiana Tech
Mediocre teams: Hawaii
Bad teams: Utah State, Idaho, New Mexico State, San Jose State

9. C-USA

Elite teams: NONE
Good teams: Houston
So-so teams: East Carolina, Southern Miss, Tulsa
Mediocre teams: Memphis, Rice
Bad teams: UCF, Marshall, UAB, UTEP, SMU, Tulane

10. MAC

Elite teams: NONE
Good teams:Central Michigan
So-so teams: Western Michigan, Buffalo
Mediocre teams:Ball State, Northern Illinois
Bad teams: Ohio, Miami (Oh), Akron, Kent State, Toledo, Eastern Michigan

11. Sun Belt

Elite teams: NONE
Good teams: NONE
So-so teams:Troy
Mediocre teams: FAU, Arkansas State, MTSU, 
Bad teams: LA. Lafayette, La. Monroe, FIU, North Texas, WKU 

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Seriously, Connor?

That is the worst ranking of teams I have ever seen. ASU as a good team? How? Oregon as an “elite” team, but Cal not? As for the Big 10, how can you put Wisconsin as an elite when they were AWFUL last year (and have gotten progessively worse every year under Brett Bielema) yet, Penn State, which WON the Big 10 last year as just a good team?

And that’s not even including how you could call Oregon State a so-so team, when they have finished as high or higher than both good teams, and an elite team the last few years. I know its your opinion, but I’m almost mad that I read this.

I support Takimoto in his effort to support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.

by The VD Special on Jul 13, 2009 5:12 PM PDT reply actions  

All bad...

but as bad as having the WAC as the 5th conference in the nation? I think not.

--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog

by jtlight on Jul 13, 2009 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah

WAC needs to be 9/10 range…

and only 6 out of 11 conf. have bad teams? I’ve been fairly split on the rest of these but you’re off your rocker.

by B Money on Jul 14, 2009 5:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

pac 10 rankings

get real who finished near the top can you say OSU lose the california attitude.

by scout66 on Jul 13, 2009 7:50 PM PDT reply actions  

You guys must be unemployed

Because you have way too much time on your hands. ASU!?! Try switching to decaf!

by Chris-8ally on Jul 13, 2009 8:27 PM PDT reply actions  

Hold on everyone!

Now personally I’m more in line with Tortuga’s rankings, but let’s crank it down a little bit about Connor’s picks. I think the reactions are getting a bit overboard on the rankings since no one is really offering reasoned counter arguments (I do agree with the WAC needs to go down) and if you have some big disagreements going (and I think there are some to be made!) let’s make Connor defend his picks with some reasoned counter rankings and/or questions about why Connor went the way he did.

Case in point: Wisconsin, now I totally agree that they are not an “elite” team, especially over PSU, but at the same time they were not “AWFUL” last year since they had a winning record, played some pretty close games against ranked conference teams, and did go to a bowl. But are they going to be “elite” this year? I don’t think so for they also showed they couldn’t win the big games and lost some ugly ones, so let’s see why Connor picked them this way. I personally think they are a “so-so” with maybe a chance to be a “good” team, but why put them as an “elite” team?

And I like Tortuga’s Pac-10 for that line up makes sense with the “good” teams all should be there since they have a lot of question marks going into the season and need to prove they belong in the top part of the conference, but also have shown a lot of promise over the last few years to be well respected. Though I would have to put UA as a so-so team. So Connor, why ASU? Why OSU as “so-so”? Why UO as “elite” and not Cal?

-RVM

by rvm on Jul 14, 2009 12:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Wisconsin also almost lost to Cal Poly at home, and would have lost if it wasn’t for 3 MISSED EXTRA POINTS by Cal Poly’s kicker.

Almost brings back bad, bad memories

I support Takimoto in his effort to support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.

by The VD Special on Jul 14, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not saying they are great or even good actually, just not AWFUL. WSU and UW were awful, or even Michigan bad.

-RVM

by rvm on Jul 14, 2009 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Our rankings are different

Remember, Tortuga’s are compared to other teams in the nation. Mine are compared to the other teams in the conference.

With that being said, do I think ASU will be a Top 15 team. No. But compared to other teams in the Pac-10, they are going to be pretty good. I think the Ducks are going to definitely be a Top 10 team. Their offense should be explosive as usual and their defense should only get better. Their schedule also helps them out with playing all the good Pac-10 teams at home. Once again, California should be pretty good, but they find a way to mess up their season every year. Don’t be surprised if that happens again. With Oregon State, I can see us either being Elite, Good, or So-So. I put us at So-So because we’ve got a tough road schedule and we are unproven at some positions at defense.

As for the Big 10, I honestly don’t know that much about the teams. I knew Wisconsin had a fairly easy schedule so I put them as Elite. I can’t really say any more for the Big 10.

I was off on the WAC. I don’t know what I was thinking there. Maybe I should of put them at 8. I do think they will be better than the Big East because that conference is going to be incredibly soft this year.

So there’s my justifications.

I miss CV3000

by ConnorOSU on Jul 14, 2009 2:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Didn't mean to jump so harshly on the rankings

I have been loving the previews. But man I just couldn’t believe what I was reading

I support Takimoto in his effort to support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.

by The VD Special on Jul 14, 2009 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's Cool

We just have different opinions.

I miss CV3000

by ConnorOSU on Jul 14, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

OSU

You have some good points about the Beavs this year, but as with my arguments of why the Ducks are not an “elite” team going into the 09 season, I would make the inverted argument about the Beavers not being a “so-so” team going into the season: Because of the established coaching situation and established success the team has had under Riley. Would I be totally surprised if the Beavers had a less than stellar run next season? Not totally, just like I wouldn’t be totally surprised if the Ducks did make a run for the Pac title. But I think both teams can also go the other way too, where the Beavs make a solid run and the Ducks underachieve. So I would put both under the “good” category (along with Cal) sitting there ready to prove they can make a run at the only “elite” team in the conference going into 09: USC.

Just my thoughts.

And yes still not sure about ASU above OSU, could it happen? Sure, but going off history, and last year, I don’t see it going into the season. ASU and DE has A LOT to prove before we can put them up there. ASU’s season could be very interesting to watch though.

-RVM

by rvm on Jul 15, 2009 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's pretty much what I was trying to say above

Sorry if I didn’t make it clear.

I think the Top 6 teams in the Pac-10 could be anywhere from Elite to So-So.

I miss CV3000

by ConnorOSU on Jul 15, 2009 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess

It just kind-of jumps out at me when before they have played anything you have put UO as elite and OSU as so-so. Just think USC is the only team to have proven itself to be called elite (in relation to both the Pac-10 and the nation) and the rest (UO, Cal, and OSU) are solid good teams with a chance to make the run.

Not a big deal really to me, your predicts are as good as mine! And really my thoughts above are actually more about my thinking at this time than an argument against yours (might not seem so, but really), I’m just using your predicts to formulate my own thoughts. I’m sure I’ll change my mind about 100 times before and during the season.

Got me thinking about OSU football already, so that’s a good thing!

-RVM

by rvm on Jul 15, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

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