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John Canzano's article in Thursday's Oregonian has Beaver fans riled up-- and I don't quite understand why.

Although I wish they weren't true, he makes some valid points. 

Sure, Canzano heavily questioned the hiring of Robinson last April. He said that the 2008-2009 Beavers played like a women's team. And now he's saying that Robinson is the best thing that has happened to Oregon State basketball since Ralph Miller.... and that the relative of the President would fit in Los Angeles at USC. 

And you don't buy The Bald One's recent comments, just because he got it wrong last year?

His dramatic shift on the issue is what it is-- dramatic. But how can you fault him for not telling it like it is? Robinson's hiring seemed hard to comprehend at first. It didn't make a ton of sense. And that's what Canzano wrote. Canzano has openly said on the Bald Faced Truth that he was wrong about Robinson fitting in at Oregon State. Just because he was wrong last April, do you want him to continue to defend his initial position?

Canzano further argues that Robinson should leave Oregon State while his stock is high. I think that's a valid argument, although I'm not sure that other Athletic Directors across the country are seeing Coach Rob in the same light... yet. Robinson still needs to prove that he can win games year-in and year-out, and disprove the argument that he's riding a tremendous wave produced by his move from Brown to Oregon State, the election of his brother-in-law to the Presidency of the United States, and a drop or two of luck. 

Seemingly everything--from the morale of the returnees to the skill-set of the incoming recruiting class-- is pointing in the positive direction for Robinson. But last season, he took an 0-18 Pac-10 team and produced seven conference wins, with the pre-season goal of just winning one. Improvement that drastic will be hard to come by again, but proving this team can fit in the upper echelon of the Pac-10 is the next item on the coach's agenda. 

It's easy to overachieve when nobody expects achievement. Yet, Robinson brought with him from Brown an unorthodox style of play that his players bought into-- even if they did look like women in the process. 

The Craig Robinson phenomenon seems a bit like Jacoby Ellsbury's performance in the 2007 MLB Playofs for Boston. In his first 116 Major League at-bats, "The Kid" from Madras hit .394, mostly because other clubs just couldn't figure out how to pitch to him. Robinson's "Modified-Princeston" offense seems a bit like that to me, and we saw some teams begin to stymie the Beavers even as soon as the second round of the Pac-10 schedule. 

Canzano also argues that Robinson would make a great fit at USC.

Yeah, USC is a mess right now. First and foremost they're a football school, but there are still people who care about the basketball program. They'll at least continue to garner attention as long as O.J. Mayo's name adorns the front page of sports sections-- but they need someone to get them out of the mess. Let's face it-- USC will have a basketball coach this season. Craig Robinson could work there. 

But see, this is something that we're just going to have to get used to as Oregon State fans. Bob De Carolis plucked a great head coach out of thin air. Craig Robinson looks like a gem right now. Robinson, the guy nobody had ever heard of, got the job, and did a better than anyone could have ever fathomed. 

Bill Grier said no. Mike Montgomery, who Coach Robinson beat twice this year, wasn't interested. Ken Bone passed.

Instead, De Carolis and the Beavers decided to differentiate themselves. They brought in Robinson, an Ivy-League scholar who injected the Oregon State locker room with his work ethic, knowledge, and vocabulary. 

Trust me, others are going to want to steal the gem that Oregon State unearthed. 

As a Beaver fan, I feel like we're in a life-sized game of Cubefield. The longer we juke and dodge, the higher our score gets, but it's only a matter of time until we lose out on the deal. 

--Jake (jake.buildingthedam@gmail.com)

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How sweet it was...

After what Mike Montgomery said about the Beavers last year, to turn around and beat him twice the next year was just… freakin’ awesome. :)

by sangdorange on Jun 12, 2009 10:09 AM PDT reply actions  

Mike Montgomery... pfffft.

Yeah, talk smack when you DON’T have the least successful coach in PAC 10 history on your freaking staff, Mike.

I was at the Cal game in Corvallis and it was so nice to close out that sweep. Almost as nice as going 3-0 against Stanford.

"The brownies,'' Fernandez said after the game. "The brownies are good for me to make three-points.''

- from Quick's Behind the Blazers Locker Room Door, 4/16/09

by ArbyOSU on Jun 12, 2009 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Two Points

Which I know I’ve made a few, or more, times before so sorry for the redundancy (okay not really sorry since if I was truly sorry I wouldn’t be posting them):

1. Don’t rely on and give too much credence to Canzano.

2. As much as I loved it and thought it was one of the more amazing OSU sports’ stories of recent years, winning the CBI is really not jacking up one’s “stock.” The Beavs still finished in the bottom part of the conference and at the end of the regular season did not have a winning record. Coach Robinson needs to really prove that he can send a big conference team regularly to the post-season. So I would say his “stock goes up” when he can easily make the NIT next year and after that starts bringing the Beavs to the NCAA (if not better). CBI was great but is nothing like the respect he’ll get if he brings the Beavs to the NCAA, this is one big reason why WSU lost their coach.

So: “Trust me, others are going to want to steal the gem that Oregon State unearthed.” I honestly don’t think we are there yet Jake. Look I may be totally wrong and we could be looking for a coach next season or two and I would be majorly bummed, but I feel confident enough to think we are safe with Coach Robinson for at least a couple years. As much as he’s proven his worth to Beaver Nation, I just don’t think ADs around the country are seeing it quite the same way (and they probably aren’t listening to Canzano much either, so sorry). In what I think you are getting at above Jake, when Robinson takes his own recruits to the NCAA then I believe Beaver Nation should worry about getting those ‘thank you for the memories’ cards out to sign. Plus, I do agree with something ArbyOSU said in an earlier post and money does have a lot to do with it, and he will be in better shape as a more proven commodity.

In closing, I have my naive optimist view that Coach Robinson also has some personal commitment to the program. I don’t personally know him, but he just seems to me like someone who wants to really make something out of the basketball program here. Look how much he has embraced the tradition and alums, I think he wants to leave with the program at a place he can be proud of. I do realize this cuts both ways for us, for it also probably means he’s more about re-establishing a tradition he can feel good about when he leaves versus someone like Coach John who really hoped to establish his own individual long-term tradition. But it will take a little time I think for Robinson to feel really good about leaving OSU. This of course just “pop psychologist” me talking but that’s how I feel about it right now.

-RVM

by rvm on Jun 12, 2009 10:10 AM PDT reply actions  

I honestly don’t think we are there yet Jake.

Very good point here.

From our perspective, Coach Robinson walked on water last season, turning what was a turd sandwich the year previous into a steak dinner (without any turds involved). The team was fun to watch, the players played hard and showed improvement from week to week. Things were undoubtedly back on track and we found our guy in Coach Robinson.

That said, we also spent a season watching our boys—the same that won the CBI this year—crap themselves for an entire season with many, many gutless performances. We had a coach who couldn’t scheme our team into the second round of an intramural basketball tournament at Linn Benton CC and who nearly died because of the resulting stress.

Enter Coach Robinson.

To us, this guy is either a great coach or the greatest coach with no in between. He’s worked miracles in our eyes and hey, for a bargain he’d be a good roll of the dice for anyone. However, with a lot of jobs that have opened they want to see someone who has put together a few successful seasons, who has recruited well, who has coached deep into March, etc. Coach Robinson is on his way, no doubt. And if we’re very, very lucky, we lock him up with a fat contract and get his family to fall in love with the beautiful Willamette Valley and he coaches here until at least the end of Obama’s second term. Chances are, this won’t happen and someone with fatter pockets and a better situation for him will come along… but I don’t think we have to worry YET.

The man still has proving to do. The people with really big bucks are most likely thinking, “OK, nice season. Show me more.”

Coach Robinson is great for OSU. I have high hopes for the future he has laid the groundwork for and while I’m fully aware he’s young and an up and comer, he still has a little ways to go before he’s snatched up by big money and a better (read: east coast) situation.

At least that’s what I think.

"The brownies,'' Fernandez said after the game. "The brownies are good for me to make three-points.''

- from Quick's Behind the Blazers Locker Room Door, 4/16/09

by ArbyOSU on Jun 12, 2009 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

and nearly freakin’ impossible

-RVM

by rvm on Jun 12, 2009 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

My thoughts on Canzano

I was wrong to call him an idiot, but I stand by everything I said before. I do agree with all the sides of the story, and I’ll just leave it at that. I think sometimes I am just so passionate about the Beavs, that I am blind to the fact that Craig might leave.

By the way, Cubefield is still addicting.

I miss CV3000

by ConnorOSU on Jun 12, 2009 5:19 PM PDT reply actions  

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