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Pac-10 Roundtable: 2-17-2009

It's that time of the week again! Time to sit down and have a nice roundtable discussion. Thanks to our fabulous troupe of Pac-10 compadres for putting this together, as always. 

On to the questions....

1. How is Monday, February 16, 2009 different from all other days? On all other days, we eat bread or matzah. Today, we don't have to go to work! On all other nights, we eat all kinds of vegetables. Today, we get great deals on automobiles! On all other nights, we do not dip our vegetables even once. Today, we wish Lincoln a Happy 200th and Washington a Happy somethingorother! On all other nights, we eat our meals sitting or reclining. BUT TODAY WE DON'T HAVE TO GO TO WORK! Unfortunately for them, I bet you that your team's basketball coach violated the great spirit of President's Day and went to work. Except for Ernie Kent, since they apparently cancelled basketball in Oregon. For your team's b-ball coach, what was his most pressing issue to focus on while we were celebrating President's Day.

Coach Robinson needs to figure out a way to stop the slow starts. I don't have the numbers in front of me, but I can't remember the last time we had a decent lead at halftime, (maybe the Stanford game?) and that has hurt us. And other games, our slow starts have put us way behind and fighting back. Luckily, he has the 2nd half down to an art, but I can only imagine our record this year had we started better. We're definitely going to need to start hot this weekend against the Bay Area schools. Cal is hot. Stanford, eh. But it's going to be tough, and a sweep would be sweet.

2. Watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7yfISlGLNU. Which basketball player from your team would you choose to be on your Party Yacht? Why?.

Big Roe is from the Netherlands, so you know what has been legal where he lives for years. I bet the big guy knows how to p-a-r-t-y. But I think Daniel Deane has some good, um, herbs. And really, can we invite those boys from Eugene or Berkeley? I bet their, um, herbs, are even better!

Star-divide

3. Lots of "minor violations" going on in College Football these days. The Pac-10 isn't immune to this issue as both Paul Wulff and Steve Sarkisian have gotten caught up in the madness. Is this just a case of stretching the rules? Is it believable for a head coach of a D1 program to be "in the dark" when it comes to the rules? More importantly than all that, do these recruiting violations even matter?

In the dark? No. But the problem is, these minor violations get reported, and that's that. Not even a slap on the wrist. I'd be very surprised if the NCAA even keeps track of these minor violations. And honestly, the NCAA needs to rethink some of these violations and decide if they are really worth keeping as violations. Who cares if a recruit runs through the tunnel with smoke and fireworks? At UW at WSU, if they run through the tunnel into an empty stadium, can it get any more real then that? ZING! What about holding a "press conference"? That seems a little silly to call that a violation. I'm frustrated with the NCAA, but what can ya do??

4. If you look at the standings as we sit today...the potential first round matchups in the Pac-10 Tournament are: Washington vs. Oregon State/Stanford, ASU vs.WSU/Oregon, UCLA/Arizona and California/USC. Play out these games and tell us who wins the automatic bid.

Oregon State with the upset. ASU over WSU. UCLA wins out however. I would be very, very surprised if anyone but the Bruins hoist the Pac10 tourney trophy in March. Arizona is the hottest team in the conference, however, and could make some noise come tourney time. But look for Oregon State, with it's slow-esque play to win a couple games in LA.

5. If you had your choice, which group of aging rock stars would you want your marching band to back up on an awards show? Who would you pair your rivals' band with for maximum embarrassment?

For our band: The Rolling Stones. Those guys can rock. No matter how old they get (it seems like they've never been younger than 60), they put on a good show. I'd love to see some Orange and Black at a Stones concert.

For Oregon's band: Elton John, with Belotti and Kent singing back up to "Candle in the Wind"

--The VD Special

Poll
Who's the "shadiest" coach in the Pac10?
Sark
9 votes
Wulff
3 votes
Can it be anyone other then Bellotti?
29 votes
Of course it can, JSHUFELT!
4 votes

45 votes | Poll has closed

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I’m not a coach!

It's spelled "S-H-U-G-S-A-R-E-F-O-R-T-H-U-G-S""

by JShufelt on Feb 17, 2009 9:07 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I only play one on my blogs…

-RVM

by rvm on Feb 17, 2009 9:23 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh… Good point. I guess I lied.

I’m a coach!

It's spelled "S-H-U-G-S-A-R-E-F-O-R-T-H-U-G-S""

by JShufelt on Feb 17, 2009 12:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Freakin’ liar. What are you trying to do, coach in the state of Washington or something?

by ArbyOSU on Feb 17, 2009 3:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh… can’t have that happen…

I’m totally not a coach!

It's spelled "S-H-U-G-S-A-R-E-F-O-R-T-H-U-G-S""

by JShufelt on Feb 17, 2009 5:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I feel safe saying this on a Beaver blog...

But while current events want me to say Wulff or Sark, common sense tells me that they’re simply the stupidest coaches in the PAC 10. The coaches I view as shady (ie-smug bastards that give me an icky feeling, the types of people who could make you second guess anything) in the PAC 10 would have to be Bellotti and the ever stunning Neuheisel. Both have had their problems get into trouble and both just make me feel dirty.

Again, ducks, don’t blow me up here. I’m saying it in my own house, not over at your place. I’m not saying he’s a bad coach, I’m not saying Riley’s infinitely superior, just that I find Mike “Comic Book Guy” Bellotti to be a less than savory character, that’s all.

And yes, even with the mustache gone he’s still a creep. Maybe more of one.

by ArbyOSU on Feb 17, 2009 9:45 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

What I have to say about this...

I don’t know about being “safe,” even here!

I like Mike Riley.

And beyond that I’ll just say this that I find it vastly interesting that a really big nasty rivalry in the Pac-10 nowadays has broken down to Neuheisel vs. Bellotti teams.

-RVM

by rvm on Feb 17, 2009 10:13 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And to add to the interest, the two enjoy golfing with each other.

It's spelled "S-H-U-G-S-A-R-E-F-O-R-T-H-U-G-S""

by JShufelt on Feb 17, 2009 12:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I heard that the Sham-Wow guy caddies for them too.

Speaking of sham-wows, those things actually look pretty cool. I kinda want one for some reason. And by one I mean the whole multi-colored roll.

As soon as I get those puppies out of the box I’m going to dump soooo much pop on some shag carpet. Why? Because I’ll be able to clean it up with ease.

by ArbyOSU on Feb 17, 2009 3:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Why would I blow you up?

It’s your opinion, and some might disagree with it.
It isn’t like you’re being slanderous – which I would make a comment over.

But when you have a Mike Riley as Head Coach, any coach looks slimy in comparison.

Mr. Clean calls Riley, “Mr. Clean.”

Oxiclean and ShamWow use Mike Riley to clean itself off.

The Red Sea parted for Moses; Mud parts for Mike Riley.

It's spelled "S-H-U-G-S-A-R-E-F-O-R-T-H-U-G-S""

by JShufelt on Feb 17, 2009 12:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

thanks coach J

-RVM

by rvm on Feb 17, 2009 2:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

and don’t feel too bad, you got two votes so far

-RVM

by rvm on Feb 17, 2009 2:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Actually… I’m more disappointed that Wuff has one less than I do.

It's spelled "S-H-U-G-S-A-R-E-F-O-R-T-H-U-G-S""

by JShufelt on Feb 17, 2009 2:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So fresh and so clean.

I’m glad we JShu-agree. If Mike Riley shows up with a mustache though all bets are off.

If Riley was a surgeon or dentist he wouldn’t wear gloves and you wouldn’t complain.

by ArbyOSU on Feb 17, 2009 2:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I have a problem with the following quote:

Luckily, he has the 2nd half down to an art

Exhibit A: Washington. Boom. Roasted.

I think a lot of that was just an illustration of how far we have to go to get to that upper tier of the conference but come on now, we’ve tanked a few second halves and come up short. Our first WSU game. Arizona. ASU. Those cold spells count for something.

That being said, love Coach Robinson, love the look of our new recruits and can’t wait for Wednesday. Is that game not on TV?

by ArbyOSU on Feb 17, 2009 9:51 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Yes

And I have to say I think we should give it into next year to really start to talk about what strong and weak coaching patterns emerge for him. I know it has become a bit of a cliché this year with him, but really it is a bye year with the situation he is coming into. So I find it hard to judge the strong and weak points, and yes this 2nd half example is a good one. UW was terrible but WSU was awesome. So is that the coaching only or what about the players? I think it is hard to really say yet.

-RVM

by rvm on Feb 17, 2009 10:08 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think you need to chalk up most of the wins to coaching, save the Schaftenaar 3 ball to beat SC. When these guys win it’s not because they are out there running, outscoring and out hustling on D. They’re playing into the system in all facets and that’s what works.

Even in losses Robinson has managed games well and that’s something I think we can smile about.

Don’t look at this year as a bye because let’s face it, after last year this is more than just a bye. It’s a foundation for next year and the year after and so on. Better athletes, better preparation, better results. Can’t wait.

by ArbyOSU on Feb 17, 2009 10:20 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, I just meant by a “bye” I just don’t think I’m ready for everyone to judge how well he can coach (but I have a personal opinion about that), and especially trying to figure out his specific strong and weak points. I think we need to get that talent into the program and see what he does with players he feels match up well with his schemes. That’s all.

And yes totally agree that this a foundation year and I think he saw it this way and not like everyone else did as just a “pass” year. He knows what he’s doing IMO.

Does that make sense? I agree with you but think I was also unclear about what I meant so you misunderstood me a little.

-RVM

by rvm on Feb 17, 2009 11:32 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And oh again and I am 100% with you here:
Better athletes, better preparation, better results. Can’t wait.

-RVM

by rvm on Feb 17, 2009 11:47 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Gotcha.

I have duck friends who are using this year as an emotional bye of sorts, just kind of writing it off and acting like if they can’t see it (or aren’t looking) that it’s not happening. These same guys gave me loads of crap during our season last year so I’m enjoying this year with class and letting them soak in each week as it passes.

by ArbyOSU on Feb 17, 2009 11:48 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Who's the "shadiest" coach in the Pac10?

Where the hell is the slick Rick option?

by Noghri_ViR on Feb 18, 2009 10:43 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

+1

Serious oversight on Neuheisel not being on the list.

May we hand you your taints on a silver platter...

by 071903 on Feb 18, 2009 7:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

What has Slick Rick actually done

Didn’t he get in trouble for betting on college basketball? Against the rules, maybe, but hardly “shady” unless there’s more to that story that I don’t know

I support Takimoto in his effort to support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.

by The VD Special on Feb 19, 2009 2:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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