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Can the Beavers Stop the Spread?

The bottom line is that Oregon State's defense will need to bring their A-game in order to slow down Oregon's offense, which is just a tad bit better than that of Washington State. (AP Photo/Dean Hare)

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The bottom line is that Oregon State's defense will need to bring their A-game in order to slow down Oregon's offense, which is just a tad bit better than that of Washington State. (AP Photo/Dean Hare)

First of all... gotta fess up for the embarrassing mistake I made yesterday in proclaiming that the final score of the OSU/WSU game was 42-20 in the recap below. That was bad.  

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During Saturday's game between Arizona and Oregon, how many times did you find yourself saying "SOMEBODY HIT HIM!!!" every time Jeremiah Masoli left the pocket?

Even though we were all technically supposed to be rooting for the Ducks, I'm guessing you were saying it a lot. 

The Oregon offense is a puzzling thing. It's unclear to me whether Masoli and LaMichael James are really as talented individually as the previous games this season have made them look. Is it that, or do they simply benefit from the momentum this offense generates? Whatever it is, it works-- and they're both elusive and hard to get to. 

John Canzano wrote in the Oregonian today about the differences in these two programs, but noted the similarities in their successes. His analogy stated that the Ducks got to the top branch of the "tree" with an aerodynamic jumpsuit and a catapult, and Oregon State got to the top by planting a seed, watering it, and waiting for the tree to grow. 

It's a clever comparison of two programs who do things very differently, but with success. If you overhear a conversation about Oregon State's offense, you'll hear words like balanced, steady, and dependable. If you overhear a conversation about the Oregon offense, you'll hear words like explosive, dynamic, and "Oh #%@!!!!" 

Both offensive schemes obviously work. But for whatever reason, the spread offense is hard to stop, for the following reasons:

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The offense widens the field,stretching the defense horizontally. It forces the defense to defend more space. It creates running lanes. 

The spread offense utilizes skilled players. More players are involved on the outside and they get into space with the ball in their hands. Open field tackling will be key for the Beaver defense. 

The offense wants to create mismatches. They want to get four receivers matched up against two or three defenders, and their speedy backs matched up against generally slower linebackers. 

The one caveat for the Beavers here is that they have more overall speed on defense this year. Lance Mitchell and Cameron Collins are a big upgrade, speed-wise, from Afalava and Layborn. You need speed in the secondary to stop this defense, and the Beavers have more of that this year than last. 

The speed of the Oregon offense tends to make defensive substitutions difficult. The Beavers like to rotate fresh bodies into the game on the defensive line especially, and it's hard to do when the offense is going no-huddle. The offense also makes it harder for the defensive coaches to communicate with the guys on the field, and it forces the defense to commit to a particular package early in the play clock, allowing time for adjustments and reeds to be made. 

Bottom line, it's difficult to defend, especially with a running threat at quarterback like the Ducks have in Masoli. 

I'm confident in the plan that Mark Banker will develop to stop the Oregon offense. But discipline, execution, and heart on the part o f the eleven guys on the field will be key. 

--Jake (jake.buildingthedam@gmail.com)

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talent?

I don’t get the questioning of the ucks talent. This is and has been an
extraordinary team. Last year the beavs were the better team, came to the game unprepared and got completely waxed.

I hate the ucks as much as anyone. But this beaver team has to give them their due, shut the heck up before the game, prepare and play like they never have, and win the bleeping game.

Two years in a row they have a shot at the Rose Bowl. Time to cash in.

by tradernum1 on Nov 23, 2009 7:45 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

The spread requires discipline

to defend. It tends to work better at the college and high school levels than at the professional level because there are more frequently relatively weak links in a defense at those levels. The natural tendency is to over-pursue, in an effort to help cover up a weakness. This is usually when the spread excels, as cutback lanes for running and cut lanes open in the passing game.

The key is assignment discipline, and not allowing any easy openings to attack.

The Ducks are very good at what they do in part because they have great speed that allows them to quickly get into those openings. And Masoli, like Dixon before him, have excellent field vision, which results in good reads, the key to the spread’s success, most of the time.

Andy Wooldridge, andy_wooldridge@yahoo.com
Go Beavs!

by AndyPanda on Nov 23, 2009 8:18 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

yep

also the defenses in the NFL are far better at open field tackling than at any other level.

"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"

2008 Civil War: Oregon 65 - Oregon State 38

by cloudydays on Nov 23, 2009 12:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

REALLY?

The beavers were the better team last year? REALLY? REAAAALLLY?

65-38 does not happen just because you show up unprepared. The beavs were out-skilled, out-schemed, and whupped hardcore by a superior team in every way. Except maybe punting.

Big balls chip and co need to keep it simple and run the strait up zone read, even if they have to settle for 5 and 6 yard carries, until somebody blows their assignment. Oregon had more passing yards than rushing at Arizona, and that is in a nut shell why it was such a close game. Arizona had, a first for any team this season, slowed the Oregon run game. If Oregon establishes the run, there’s not a lot short of a miracle that’s gonna help team rogers win the day.

Sean-y and lil’ Quizz are gonna have a field day no matter what, but Autzen’s 12th man will be the beginning of drive and momentum-killing false starts for a young beaver O-line.
If the beavs go up early they easily have what it takes to keep control to the final minute.

by Yarmarkt on Nov 23, 2009 9:35 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Oh yeah

I forgot that the one game made the Quappers better……………

by RayBeavFan on Nov 23, 2009 4:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

its not like the scoreboard

decides the better team anymore? Oh wait, It usually does.
I like the post here but yeah that comment about being the “better team” is laughable, in fact I find it hard to believe you weren’t at least chuckling to yourself for a little bit while writing it.

I’m interested to see if OSU uses any tactics IE a spy on Masoli all game like Arizona did as well as bum rushing the defensive ends and usually a linebacker to the side of the field they believe James to be running towards… it seemed they were always 3 yards down field by the time James received the hand off.

by duckyou on Nov 23, 2009 9:50 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Civil war

With everyone healthy this year, I expect a record high score on both sides. I don’t need to talk any smack, but I’m putting my money on the Beavers. With Canfield spreading the ball around like he has lately, he’ll get it done. I only wish he spread it at the start of the year, because I think it would’ve won us a couple more games. The other teams were able to key on just the Rodger bro’s and weren’t worried about anyone else. Now the Ducks have to think about some of the other threats on offense.

by NativeWebfoot on Nov 23, 2009 11:26 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Is it me?

Or are there a lot of mixed messages going on in this comment thread?

-RVM

by rvm on Nov 23, 2009 11:57 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I expect a battle

for the first half. Oregon’s depth, conditioning, and speed of play will wear down the Beavers defense, as it has done to every other conference foe this season. I think the Beavers, with a healthy Quizz, will be able to put up some points, but I just don’t see them hanging with the Ducks over 4 quarters.

As for the talent question? Really? LMJ can run at 90 degree angles. I didn’ t think that was humanly possible. He is, without question, the Pac -10’s best rusher. Quizz and Gerhart are up there (obviously) but no one is better one on one, in space, or as fast as LMJ. Period. He’s already broken Quizz’s freshman rushing record with two games to go and only getting 2 carries v. BSU. Incredible.

by Bird Flu on Nov 23, 2009 11:59 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

No.
without question, the Pac -10’s best rusher.

It’s not, “without question”. Actually I’d say Quizz, Gerhart are the upper tier of Pac-10 RBs and then LMJ is on the 2nd tier.

He’s already broken Quizz’s freshman rushing record with two games to go and only getting 2 carries v. BSU. Incredible.

Let’s not forget that Quizz hardly got any carries in his first game, and then missed his final 2 games of his freshman year. LMJ is probably still chasing that record heading into this game if Quizz doesn’t get hurt against AZ.

"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"

2008 Civil War: Oregon 65 - Oregon State 38

by cloudydays on Nov 23, 2009 12:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

durability

LMJ is a more gifted runner than both quizz and gerhart. he has breakaway speed, better moves, and as much power as quizz. gerhart is a great back, but depends heavily on is overloaded o line to open big holes. LMJ needs only a small crease and he’s gone.

making the argument that IF quizz didn’t get hurt, LMJ would still be chasing his record is ludicrous. durability is a key component in the equation. quizz gets more carries and has a lower yards per carry average than either LMJ or gerhart. he’s great, but his numbers are a product of the amount of carries he has. LMJ does more with less opportunity.

by Bird Flu on Nov 23, 2009 2:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That is incerdibly ignorant

If this is you actual opinion, then fine, we are all entitled to them. But if you’ve watched at most, two Beaver games this season, then you know that we have an excellent shot at winning or at least being in it until the final seconds.

December 3rd. Autzen Stadium. Pac-10 Championship Game.

by ConnorOSU on Nov 23, 2009 4:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

12 days of preparation

This year, the Beavers have 12 days to prepare for the spread. Also, rather than coming off an emotional, close win over Arizona, the Beavers are coming off a blow-out victory over WSU. Banker has professional pride. My guess is that the defense will be better prepared for the Duck offense this year than last.

While I expect the Ducks to score 30-40 points, it seems unlikely the Ducks will score 65 again. For the Beavers to win this game, they will need to score 40 points. This is doable, but it will be hard.

by leon0112 on Nov 23, 2009 1:24 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

16-3

is the Ducks record in games with more than a week to prepare. the time off favors Oregon, who has closed the season playing the toughest part of their schedule.

by Bird Flu on Nov 23, 2009 2:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t agree. The Beavers have been able to coast to the finish and rest a lot of guys. We’ve had to scrap and scrape to get by Arizona. I’m not sure that’s in our favor

--Dominic, Addicted to Quack

Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.

by dvieira on Nov 23, 2009 2:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Isn’t Riley something like 7 and 1 after a bye week over the last five years? And I think 9 and 4 overall and two of those I think are CW wins. But his one loss in the last five years did come this year (SC), so I’m not actually sold it is an advantage one way or the other.

-RVM

by rvm on Nov 23, 2009 2:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

agree. Both teams have the same amount of time. Yes, Oregon has played tougher competition but all that should mean is more dings, maybe MAYBE a little sharper. That being said, no one is going to be sharp after Thursday when the pies and deep fried turkey come out.

--Dominic, Addicted to Quack

Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.

by dvieira on Nov 23, 2009 6:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Tofurky will be our secret weapon!

--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog

by jtlight on Nov 23, 2009 8:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Isn't that what Dom's "fudgescile" is made of?

Tofurkey? Mmmmm, tofurkey fudgesicles…

Soy anranjado....

by sandiegobeav on Nov 24, 2009 8:50 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

interesting reading.

gonna be a classic period.

i can really see another double overtime game in the making for this year’s civil war.

admittedly i am biased, but if oregon’s D can make a statement early with 1 or two stops with masoli producing points, game over. if the ducks can get up 2 scores early, osu will have to abandon one of their weapons, quizz. mainly because they will use him early to set their tone but with stops game plan gone time for the beavers to adjust.

with stops and production on the oregon’s offense, which has happened over and over at home this year for the ducks, we will see another great team TRY to catch up but fail.

gonna be a great game, both teams have NO EXCUSES, injury short week etc. gonna be nuckin futs!!

GO DUCKS!!!

by sheyn on Nov 25, 2009 11:27 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Kristick may be the key

If he can get some pressure on Masoli and drop and play the spy, it could allow us to key-up more pressure on LMJ at the line. We can’t afford to have either LMJ or Masoli continue to get into the open field, but we can afford Masoli to attempt passes.

by insanity on Nov 28, 2009 4:43 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

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