Game 3 Preview and Open Thread: OSU vs. Texas Tech
by Jake Bertalotto on Nov 15, 2009 11:39 AM PST
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Oregon St. Beavers at Texas Tech Red Raiders, Nov 15, 2009 1:30 PM PST
Oregon State at Texas Tech - 1pm - Audio at OSUBeavers.com + KPAM 860
If the Beavers are looking to make the NCAA Tournament, these are the types of games in which they need to win.
Texas Tech is a quality Big 12 opponent. Oregon State hasn't played any quality opponents like they will be playing this year in the Pac-10 schedule, and has still struggled to get back to last year's late-season form. The Beavers faired especially poorly in their season opener against Texas A&M Corpus Christi, apparently struggling under their own high expectations of themselves.
Texas Tech, on the other hand, has faired better than OSU in their first two games. TT has defeated TAMUCC and South Dakota-- the same opponents as Oregon State. They defeated TAMUCC by six and South Dakota by 39.
The Beavers are probably going to have to fix a lot of things all at once to have a shot at Texas Tech today. It's clear that this team is going to run through Roeland Schafteaar, like it did last season, so he will have to play well-- and therefore make those around him play well.
The Red Raiders weren't a top tier Big 12 team by any means last year, but either were the Beavers in the Pac-10. TT went 3-13 last year in their conference, finishing 11th, and were 14-19 overall.
Here's Connor to take you the rest of the way: The key to this game in my mind will be controlling guard John Roberson and forward Mike Singletary. In yesterday's game against Texas A&M Corpus Christi, Roberson had 15 points while Singletary had 14. Singletary also had five boards so it will be Shaftenaar and Brandt's job to keep him off of the glass. If the 1-3-1 zone can control these two guys and force the ball into the hands of guard David Tairu, the Beavers should be pretty successful on the defensive side of the ball.
Some other important things for this afternoon's game is to not force up too many shots. In our first two games we have kind of gotten away from the Princeton Offense. Not looking for backdoor cuts, and not being patient. Those kinds of things. If we run our offense the way it's supposed to be run, we should have a good day.
--Jake (jake.buildingthedam@gmail.com) + Connor (connorosu@gmail.com)
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At Halftime in Lubbock
South Dakota-40, Texas A&M Corpus Christi-34
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by ConnorOSU on Nov 15, 2009 11:57 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
College GameDay next week
Will be in Tucson in case you guys haven’t heard. I thought they were coming to Pullman. Oh wait, never mind.
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by ConnorOSU on Nov 15, 2009 12:17 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
With 11:40 left in the game
South Dakota leads Texas A&M Corpus Christi 56-48.
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by ConnorOSU on Nov 15, 2009 12:29 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Polls don't matter much now
But the Beavers are ranked 20th in the AP and USA Today polls.
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by ConnorOSU on Nov 15, 2009 12:35 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
About 25 minutes until tip off
Watching Texas and UC Irvine right now on ESPNU.
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by ConnorOSU on Nov 15, 2009 12:37 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
With 4:35 left in the game
South Dakota leads Texas A&M Corpus Christi 69-65.
I don't care what Quinn says, I am NOT a Duck Basketball fan.
by ConnorOSU on Nov 15, 2009 12:44 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I still think this is an important indicator game
One bad loss, one fairly good win, this one will be important for the establishing the mental state of this Beavs team I think. Personally, I agree with you and think OSU can win it, but the thing here is to see if the team can settle down a bit (extend that stuff from the last game) and avoid that really sloppy play from the first game.
So I guess what I’m saying here is not a loss means a tough road until conference play, I just see this as an important identity game for the Beavs. I want that opening game as a just that an opening game fluke, with a bit of high expectation nerves at play.
-RVM
by rvm on Nov 15, 2009 12:49 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I'm with you
Winning this game would show a lot about the early identity of this team. I’d prefer for them to use the pre-season for what it’s designed for— rack up some wins, gain confidence, and get ready for the Pac-10— rather than sputtering. Nothing wrong with it taking a few games to get settled down, but once Pac-10 play starts we need to be near the top of our game, not somewhere near the bottom.
--JB--
www.buildingthedam.com
by Jake Bertalotto on Nov 15, 2009 12:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm the opposite
As far as Non-Conference games. I would like to see us load up on some tough competition. That way maybe you get a few wins, impress the committe, and most importantly get battle tested for Pac-10 play. I think that when you go play in Eugene, Seattle, Los Angeles, or Tucson, you’re not that intimidated.
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by ConnorOSU on Nov 15, 2009 12:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
See below, I think Texas Tech matches up more like a conference opponent. They are not a powerhouse, but they are part of Big 12, so beating them helps more than beating South Dakota.
But, again I ’m a bit more about OSU team identity in this one.
-RVM
by rvm on Nov 15, 2009 1:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep, and playing a bigger conference opponent, yes not a powerhouse team but one that plays high quality teams and at the level of the Pac-10, thus it will be more like playing conference play. So totally about confidence, and get the older crew going and the new guys more introduced to what it will be like.
It is early, but never too early to get stuff going. Going for a 20 type of win season you need the Ws not the Ls.
-RVM
by rvm on Nov 15, 2009 1:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Todd Mansfield doing the Play-by-Play
For the South Dakota-Texas A&M Corpus Christi game. I think he’s doing better than he does with our games.
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by ConnorOSU on Nov 15, 2009 12:55 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Final Score in Lubbock
South Dakota-76, Texas A&M Corpus Christi-73
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by ConnorOSU on Nov 15, 2009 1:00 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
With South Dakota winning
That means our game is for the Duel in the Desert Championship.
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by ConnorOSU on Nov 15, 2009 1:01 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Ted Miller is all over the Gerhart/Quizz 4 HEISMAN!!!! Campaigns
Toby Gerhart, RB, Stanford: Gerhart was an unstoppable force vs. USC. He rushed for 178 yards on 29 carries with three touchdowns, giving him 19 for the year. He sure looked like a Heisman Trophy candidate.
Jacquizz Rodgers, RB, Oregon State: Rodgers just keeps trucking along, this time gaining 159 yards on just 18 carries with two touchdowns in the Beavers 48-21 whipping of Washington. He sure looked like a Heisman Trophy candidate.
If Oregon State wins out, would Quizz get invited to New York?
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
2008 Civil War: Oregon 65 - Oregon State 38
by cloudydays on Nov 15, 2009 1:24 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I don't know that Quizz has been dominant this year...
By all means he’s had a good year, but he’s not tearing people up on a weekly basis. The fair majority of his yards yesterday came on three plays. Not sure that this is his year… but he has two more years to get to New York.
--JB--
www.buildingthedam.com
by Jake Bertalotto on Nov 15, 2009 1:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
but who else has had a really good year this year?
there is no clear Heisman leader at this point IMO…
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
2008 Civil War: Oregon 65 - Oregon State 38
by cloudydays on Nov 15, 2009 1:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
true
a strong last couple games would certainly help Quizz
--JB--
www.buildingthedam.com
by Jake Bertalotto on Nov 15, 2009 1:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Miller also thinks Canfield will be the 1st team all Pac-10 QB
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
2008 Civil War: Oregon 65 - Oregon State 38
by cloudydays on Nov 15, 2009 1:27 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Seems like it's Masoli vs. Canfield
I mean, who else would even be close? Locker, but…. poor Locker.
--JB--
www.buildingthedam.com
by Jake Bertalotto on Nov 15, 2009 1:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Stanford homers say Luck
he leads the Pac-10 in QB Rating
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
2008 Civil War: Oregon 65 - Oregon State 38
by cloudydays on Nov 15, 2009 1:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Did SD/TAMUCC go long or something? Why the delay?
--JB--
www.buildingthedam.com
by Jake Bertalotto on Nov 15, 2009 1:29 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
It went long.
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by ConnorOSU on Nov 15, 2009 1:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
OT?
--JB--
www.buildingthedam.com
by Jake Bertalotto on Nov 15, 2009 1:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I like Lamar Hurd as a color commentator
he did a good job on FSN last year
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
2008 Civil War: Oregon 65 - Oregon State 38
by cloudydays on Nov 15, 2009 1:32 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Same here
A lot of people are harsh on Mansfield… he’s no Mike Parker, but really, he’s not horrible like everyone makes him out to be, IMO
--JB--
www.buildingthedam.com
by Jake Bertalotto on Nov 15, 2009 1:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He just leaves a lot of dead air
Talk for 10 seconds, and then nothing for 5 seconds. I’d like Lamar to do the Play-by-Play and Todd do the color.
I don't care what Quinn says, I am NOT a Duck Basketball fan.
by ConnorOSU on Nov 15, 2009 1:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
With 7:45 left in the 1st Half
Texas Tech is up 23-11.
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by ConnorOSU on Nov 15, 2009 2:04 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Coach Rob said after yesterday's game he wanted his team to play games under ten turnovers
They already have nine, just over halfway into the first half
--JB--
www.buildingthedam.com
by Jake Bertalotto on Nov 15, 2009 2:05 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
We're not playing that badly right now
We’re getting good looks we just can’t make our jumpers.
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by ConnorOSU on Nov 15, 2009 2:05 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
lol be more of a homer Mansfield
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
2008 Civil War: Oregon 65 - Oregon State 38
by cloudydays on Nov 15, 2009 2:12 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
yeah he has BBQ'd the refs on multiple occasions
--JB--
www.buildingthedam.com
by Jake Bertalotto on Nov 15, 2009 2:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Cunningham and Brandt sound like they are making a solid impact out there
now if the Clearinghouse would only approve Nelson…
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
2008 Civil War: Oregon 65 - Oregon State 38
by cloudydays on Nov 15, 2009 2:15 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Burton adds a lot of size as well
--JB--
www.buildingthedam.com
by Jake Bertalotto on Nov 15, 2009 2:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He's playing very well today
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by ConnorOSU on Nov 15, 2009 2:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
sounds like he’s having a very good game too.
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
2008 Civil War: Oregon 65 - Oregon State 38
by cloudydays on Nov 15, 2009 2:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Seth with an improved offensive game
is All Pac-10 this year
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
2008 Civil War: Oregon 65 - Oregon State 38
by cloudydays on Nov 15, 2009 2:16 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Beavers right back in this thing
11-0 run
--JB--
www.buildingthedam.com
by Jake Bertalotto on Nov 15, 2009 2:20 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Cunningham, Josh Tarver/Haynes/Nelson, Seth, Big Roe, Burton
we might see this type of lineup alot this year seeing how they are performing right now
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
2008 Civil War: Oregon 65 - Oregon State 38
by cloudydays on Nov 15, 2009 2:21 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Cunningham, Josh Tarver/Haynes/Nelson, Seth, Big Roe, Burdon
we might see this type of lineup alot this year seeing how they are performing right now
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
2008 Civil War: Oregon 65 - Oregon State 38
by cloudydays on Nov 15, 2009 2:22 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
lol
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
2008 Civil War: Oregon 65 - Oregon State 38
by cloudydays on Nov 15, 2009 2:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
9/11 on free throws so far today
major difference between now and the first game
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
2008 Civil War: Oregon 65 - Oregon State 38
by cloudydays on Nov 15, 2009 2:22 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
1 minute left in the 1st Half
Red Raiders up 27-24.
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by ConnorOSU on Nov 15, 2009 2:22 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
At Halftime
Texas Tech-30, Oregon State-24
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by ConnorOSU on Nov 15, 2009 2:24 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Not a bad first half
But not a great one either for the Beavers. It was nice that we didn’t just give up after getting down 14. If we hit some of our threes that haven’t been falling then we can definitely win this thing.
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by ConnorOSU on Nov 15, 2009 2:28 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
the depth we have this year is really really nice
last year if some of our starters struggled, we were in a lot of trouble. this year we have the freshmen that can come off the bench and give us a spark.
all the credit for this comeback belongs to Burton and Cunningham
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
2008 Civil War: Oregon 65 - Oregon State 38
by cloudydays on Nov 15, 2009 2:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Dan Spencer is on the Halftime Show right now
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by ConnorOSU on Nov 15, 2009 2:29 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
wow Brandt is taking over
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
2008 Civil War: Oregon 65 - Oregon State 38
by cloudydays on Nov 15, 2009 2:46 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
now Burton is
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
2008 Civil War: Oregon 65 - Oregon State 38
by cloudydays on Nov 15, 2009 2:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Joe freaking Burton
JOE FREAKING BURTON
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
2008 Civil War: Oregon 65 - Oregon State 38
by cloudydays on Nov 15, 2009 3:13 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Scaftenaar with a 3!
Beavers up 50-48.
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by ConnorOSU on Nov 15, 2009 3:17 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Tairu hits both free throws
Game all tied up at 50.
I don't care what Quinn says, I am NOT a Duck Basketball fan.
by ConnorOSU on Nov 15, 2009 3:18 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Offensive foul on Roeland
Mansfield can’t believe it.
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by ConnorOSU on Nov 15, 2009 3:18 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Mansfield went apeshit
I haven’t heard this much whining since the last time I listened to the Ducks on the radio.
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
2008 Civil War: Oregon 65 - Oregon State 38
by cloudydays on Nov 15, 2009 3:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
A carry is called on Haynes
We can’t get any calls.
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by ConnorOSU on Nov 15, 2009 3:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
big jumper by Haynes ties it up
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
2008 Civil War: Oregon 65 - Oregon State 38
by cloudydays on Nov 15, 2009 3:22 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
1:25 left in the game
Texas Tech-57, Oregon State-54
I don't care what Quinn says, I am NOT a Duck Basketball fan.
by ConnorOSU on Nov 15, 2009 3:25 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Tairu hits a giant 3 to make the Tech lead by 6
but Big Roe hits a gigantic 3 to get the lead back to 3 with 46 seconds left.
Don’t foul here….
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
2008 Civil War: Oregon 65 - Oregon State 38
by cloudydays on Nov 15, 2009 3:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Roeland answers a three with one of his own
Beavers down three, Red Raiders ball.
I don't care what Quinn says, I am NOT a Duck Basketball fan.
by ConnorOSU on Nov 15, 2009 3:27 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
wow Mansfield thinks that should be an intentional foul
that means 2 shots and the ball for Oregon State if they change it to that…
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
2008 Civil War: Oregon 65 - Oregon State 38
by cloudydays on Nov 15, 2009 3:28 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Hard to tell exactly how bad the officiating is with Mansfield behind the mic
--JB--
www.buildingthedam.com
by Jake Bertalotto on Nov 15, 2009 3:29 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
yeah no kidding
my "egregiousness (sp?) meter is Hurd. If he chimes in, then it was a bad call
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
2008 Civil War: Oregon 65 - Oregon State 38
by cloudydays on Nov 15, 2009 3:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
INTENTIONAL FOUL
unbelievably stupid play by Texas Tech.
Now Oregon State still has a chance
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
2008 Civil War: Oregon 65 - Oregon State 38
by cloudydays on Nov 15, 2009 3:29 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Burton misses a free throw
OSU still down by 4. Crap he needed to make that free throw
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
2008 Civil War: Oregon 65 - Oregon State 38
by cloudydays on Nov 15, 2009 3:30 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
damn looks like Texas Tech is going to win
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
2008 Civil War: Oregon 65 - Oregon State 38
by cloudydays on Nov 15, 2009 3:32 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Final Score
Texas Tech-64, Oregon State-60
I don't care what Quinn says, I am NOT a Duck Basketball fan.
by ConnorOSU on Nov 15, 2009 3:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Beavers finish 3rd
In the Duel in the Desert.
I don't care what Quinn says, I am NOT a Duck Basketball fan.
by ConnorOSU on Nov 15, 2009 3:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Final Score 64-60
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
2008 Civil War: Oregon 65 - Oregon State 38
by cloudydays on Nov 15, 2009 3:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Man
So many missed oppurtunities. Officiating was terrible, but we should of overcame that on the road.
I don't care what Quinn says, I am NOT a Duck Basketball fan.
by ConnorOSU on Nov 15, 2009 3:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Seth Tarver named to the All-Tournament team
David Tairu is the MVP.
I don't care what Quinn says, I am NOT a Duck Basketball fan.
by ConnorOSU on Nov 15, 2009 3:38 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
man if he continues to score in double figures
he will be one of the top players in the Pac-10
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
2008 Civil War: Oregon 65 - Oregon State 38
by cloudydays on Nov 15, 2009 3:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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