Open Thread: UCLA at Oregon State
by Jake Bertalotto on Jan 2, 2009 6:00 PM PST
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PrintUCLA Bruins at Oregon St. Beavers, Jan 2, 2009 7:30 PM PST
Pregame: Back-to-back-to-back Pac-10 champions UCLA are in the house tonight, and look to win their eighth straight game over the Beavers. Check out the more elaborate game preview here. Quickly, let's go over some keys to the game:
- Control the Tempo: It's the kind of thing that UCLA won't like, but it's what Oregon State needs to do to win. Oregon State needs to be patient and pass a lot to get open shots in their Princeton offense. UCLA will likely try to speed up the game by applying full court or half court pressure, which means Oregon State needs to...
- Break the Press: I expect for Ben Howland to try do something to speed up the tempo of the game. UCLA is a statistically "slow" team, but they'll look to push the tempo against the Beavers. If the Bruins can get up and down, they'll be even more likely to win.
- Rebound: The Beavers will need to create as many opportunities to score as possible, and one way to do that is by rebounding. UCLA is a good offensive rebounding team but a bad defensive rebounding team... Oregon State needs to box out effectively on defense to prevent UCLA from getting second chance opportunities, and rebound well on offense to get second chance opportunities.
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Tipoff is just around the corner...
Starting lineup: Deane, Seth Tarver, Schaftenaar, Johnson, Claitt
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Oregon State continues to play strong defense.
UCLA isn’t getting many easy looks at the basket in the paint. Darren Collison gets an open three, and UCLA leads 3-0 early.
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Ricky Claitt fights for a steal, makes a tough layup, and is fouled. He’ll shoot free throws after the commercial break. 5-3 UCLA.
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correction... 5-2
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by Jake Bertalotto on Jan 2, 2009 7:41 PM PST up reply actions
Jrue Holiday hits a three, Robinson calls timeout.
18-4, UCLA, with 12 minutes and change left in the first half.
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Thoughts
UCLA is very good, OSU hopefully will learn from this experience. Not even really playing the same game right now, but not surprising really. Will be interesting to see how the Beavs come out for the second half.
-RVM
Indeed.
Tough to start the Pac-10 on such a relative high note, and play such a good team.
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by Jake Bertalotto on Jan 2, 2009 8:03 PM PST up reply actions
UCLA has reloaded nicely
They lose two players to the NBA as lottery picks in the draft— Love and Westbrook— as well as Mbah a Mounte in the second round, and look where they still are.
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I agree from watching this game so far they are very impressive.
-RVM
by rvm on Jan 2, 2009 8:08 PM PST up reply actions
switching channels back and forth
on a side football note, Utes still beating Alabama by 11 in the 4th. I’m surprised.
-RVM
I'm doing the same.
And I am surprised as well.
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by Jake Bertalotto on Jan 2, 2009 8:10 PM PST up reply actions
Halftime
No way OSU can win, but could make it respectable if they get hot from three point land and start to rebound. I’m guessing 20 to 25 point margin for UCLA in the end the way it looks though, and I guess not horrible all things considering.
For halftime I need to check out and I’ll try and check in second half Jake but can’t promise.
-RVM
Not a problem, thanks for stopping by.
This one definitely appears over. Tough way to start the Pac-10 season against a team like this.
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by Jake Bertalotto on Jan 2, 2009 8:17 PM PST up reply actions
Women's Update from LA:
The Lady Bruins lead OSU 34-29 early in the second half.
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again, quick football side note
Wow, Utah 31 to Alabama 17 with just a little under 3 minutes left. If only we didn’t have that freakin’ CW result otherwise our ’08 results would have been highly respectable in football. Still results look even better with a Utah win.
-RVM
int for Utah
game over, congrats to the Utes!
-RVM
by rvm on Jan 2, 2009 8:40 PM PST up reply actions
Utah seems to have this one in the bag.
I didn’t pick the Utes to win… I doubt many people did either. But I’m glad the Utes got it done. A Utah interception on a Alabama hail mary all but seals the deal.
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by Jake Bertalotto on Jan 2, 2009 8:41 PM PST up reply actions
Yep, not bad for a 12 and 1 team, oh yes that’s right we did lose that game didn’t we…oh well at least they mentioned that game for Utah as a big one for their season.
-RVM
by rvm on Jan 2, 2009 8:42 PM PST up reply actions
and just like that
back to nineteen point lead for UCLA
-RVM
by rvm on Jan 2, 2009 8:46 PM PST up reply actions
twenty one lead now, shoot OSU was making a nice mini-run there
-RVM
by rvm on Jan 2, 2009 8:46 PM PST up reply actions
Didn't appreciate that last call
But that referee was my P.E. teacher back in elementary school. So it’s all good, I guess.
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He's a good guy
But he also made that foul call on that block that was clearly clean awhile ago. Not sure if you caught it or not.
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by Jake Bertalotto on Jan 2, 2009 8:48 PM PST up reply actions
UCLA is definitely athletically superior
I’d like to see how we match up against their bench.
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by Jake Bertalotto on Jan 2, 2009 8:50 PM PST up reply actions
Jake, I was watching the Sugar Bowl, I didn't know you were doing play by play!
Thanks, man – it’s the only way I can catch the game :)
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I was flipping back and fourth as well...
I was just passing the time to see if any of you guys would show up. The Sugar Bowl was good, huh?
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by Jake Bertalotto on Jan 2, 2009 8:50 PM PST up reply actions
Utes scored three TD's in the 1st quarter..
Their defense was great – Alabama was on their heels the whole first half
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Yep, very impressive defensive game tonight by Utah, very impressive.
-RVM
by rvm on Jan 2, 2009 8:51 PM PST up reply actions
Wow, nice pass by Schaftenaar
I don’t think Oregon State is playing that bad. UCLA is just way better.
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I agree
though I would like to see a bit more aggressiveness and lay it out hustle on OSU’s part
-RVM
by rvm on Jan 2, 2009 8:53 PM PST up reply actions
I think that's what we were trying to avoid
And that’s kinda the way our offensive is set up. Slow it down, make passes, set screens, make cuts, look for easy baskets.
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by Jake Bertalotto on Jan 2, 2009 8:55 PM PST up reply actions
Oh I know, but still on the loose balls and rebounds we need to step it up a bit more against a team like this.
-RVM
by rvm on Jan 2, 2009 8:56 PM PST up reply actions
I understand though keeping to the offensive scheme when that is what you will be playing all year, but don’t know if that needs to carry over to the “hustle” part.
-RVM
by rvm on Jan 2, 2009 8:57 PM PST up reply actions
gotcha.
Maybe it’s just that we’re in that “methodical” mindset. It would be nice to know when to push the tempo and when to slow it down.
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by Jake Bertalotto on Jan 2, 2009 8:59 PM PST up reply actions
Yep, that will come with time though so understand it. Again, just looks a bit sluggish on our part, but not to take away from UCLA’s edge in anyway though.
-RVM
by rvm on Jan 2, 2009 9:00 PM PST up reply actions
Oh!
Nice pass but he juggled the ball and couldn’t control under the basket, who was the passer there?
-RVM
Think it was Deane.
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by Jake Bertalotto on Jan 2, 2009 8:56 PM PST up reply actions
We lost by 8ish I think
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by Jake Bertalotto on Jan 2, 2009 9:00 PM PST up reply actions
that’s too bad for that was one UCLA basketball game we could’ve won!
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by rvm on Jan 2, 2009 9:01 PM PST up reply actions
60-53 was the final.
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by Jake Bertalotto on Jan 2, 2009 9:02 PM PST up reply actions
Ah, faded color highlights from the past
Makes me feel VERY old since I was at many of those games!
-RVM
It's not like UCLA is shooting a high percentage...
they’re just getting way more shots. The Bruins have like 15 more field goal attempts in the game.
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by Jake Bertalotto on Jan 2, 2009 9:06 PM PST up reply actions
yep
making them count though and keep inching away, I’m surprised the rebound margin is not as big as I thought (27 to 21 UCLA), seems bigger I guess
-RVM
by rvm on Jan 2, 2009 9:08 PM PST up reply actions
OSU = 4 offensive rebs
UCLA = 11 offesnsive rebs
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by Jake Bertalotto on Jan 2, 2009 9:09 PM PST up reply actions
that explains it more
that’s a big difference
-RVM
by rvm on Jan 2, 2009 9:10 PM PST up reply actions
There we go!
Nice hustle and follow through on the TO and missed lay-up rebound put it back in for a three point play
-RVM
42... that's what I meant
haha
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by Jake Bertalotto on Jan 2, 2009 9:11 PM PST up reply actions
That comment never happened.
It is now deleted. Haha.
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by Jake Bertalotto on Jan 2, 2009 9:12 PM PST up reply actions
Not sure, missed it too
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by Jake Bertalotto on Jan 2, 2009 9:13 PM PST up reply actions
It was a technical two shot foul wasn’t it? Looked that way.
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by rvm on Jan 2, 2009 9:14 PM PST up reply actions
Speaking of Chalupas, the Blazers are down 12 with 2:10 left
Still no B-Roy
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by Jake Bertalotto on Jan 2, 2009 9:16 PM PST up reply actions
never a doubt
that UCLA was going to win from the after the tip, but not horrible, it could have been much worse
-RVM
Yep
Don’t let him have that lay-up! Good foul, hard but not terrible. I don’t know if it was really that much a call for an “intentional”
-RVM
23 margin
And I called it at half to be between 20 and 25! Sometimes I impress myself!
Hopefully they learned a lot from this. USC won’t be an easy game either.
-RVM
Not many games will be easy.
Just the way it’s going to be for the next few years.
But hey… the Ducks lost by 21 tonight against USC…
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by Jake Bertalotto on Jan 2, 2009 9:20 PM PST up reply actions
Thanks for stopping by, RVM
I’ll have my post-game thoughts up in a little bit.
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Yep, nice chatting/jamming with you about the game, may or may not be online for the Sunday one, but if not Go Beavs.
Looking forward to the post-game thoughts.
Have a good one!
-RVM
by rvm on Jan 2, 2009 9:22 PM PST up reply actions
You too... I'll talk to you next time you can come on!
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by Jake Bertalotto on Jan 2, 2009 9:23 PM PST up reply actions
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