Giving UO Props
Read up Duck fans. Enjoy this. This is the only time I am ever going to give Oregon credit on this blog.
Everyone wants to give credit to Johnson and Blount. But let's face it, Air Bud could have run through those holes that the OLine was creating.
It hasn't been stated enough, and I think it needs to be stated once and for all: Jeremiah Masoli won that game for Oregon. He played absolutely outstanding. There were many times where Oregon was in a 3rd and 8+. He was confident, calm, and zinged the ball around. He was Oregon's biggest threat all game. Watching him on Saturday reminded me of watching a certain quarterback who used to play for Oregon when they almost went to the Nat'l Championship. It wasn't his running that was the biggest threat-- he handed it off to the RB almost every time it seemed-- it was his poise in the pocket. 1st and 25 from the Oregon 5 comes to mind. Now, I think it's a little premature for some Duck fans to be thinking Nat'l Championship (I have seen some posts over on AtQ) in the next couple of years; but the offense looks solid next year with Masoli. How the defense fares is another question. But there is no doubt in my mind that UO is going to be a scary team. If they can somehow pull out the miracle and win their bowl game against what is surely to be a good Big XII team, I think Oregon starts the year in the top 15. While I think 15-20 is more deserved, that offense is scary.
That is all. Copy and paste it if you must, Duck fans. You won't see me doing this again.
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Okay, I'll help you out here, so your not the only dirty one!
I was impressed with Masoli after he threw that terrible ball at the beginning. That was a poor decision and a horrible pass, looked very nervous and jumpy there. Granted if it went INT maybe it would have been different, but he did a great job composing himself afterwards and never looked back.
-RVM
by rvm on
Dec 1, 2008 12:39 PM PST
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But will add...
that I agree about the National Championship talk, be careful with those type of expectations. A lot can and will happen over the next few years.
-RVM
by rvm on
Dec 1, 2008 12:57 PM PST
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You've also probably noticed how excited we are about Darron Thomas...
Alright time's up lez do this...
by qrsouther on
Dec 1, 2008 4:12 PM PST
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I have a mancrush on that guy.
It's spelled "S-h-u-n-b-o-w-l"
by JShufelt on
Dec 1, 2008 4:34 PM PST
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i have a mancrush on your mancrush.
It's spelled "M-A-R-C-H-I-N-G-B-A-N-D."
I support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.
by Takimoto on
Dec 1, 2008 7:56 PM PST
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goal for off season
fire a Nick Aliotti and make Chip Kelly the coach in wating… kinda like texas did with Muschamp.
GO DUCKS!!
by Duck4Lif3 on
Dec 1, 2008 12:50 PM PST
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National Title talks are WAAAAAAAAY out of line right now
Good post VD, as always. This is why earlier in the year I made the post/poll about whether it should be Roper or Masoli in there. I can’t see Roper operating the offense quite like what Masoli did. The potential is amazing. But, as RVM said, he still makes some really bad decisions that will hopefully be reduced with a whole offseason under his belt in the system. Let’s not forget, he wasn’t on campus for fall camp and has the least amount of time in the system of any of the QB’s, including Darron Thomas and Chris Harper.
I’d like to debate preseason rankings with you some more, but not until next year when they come out. We’ve discussed that somewhat already – the star ranking system for recruits, etc. We’ll save that for next year though. I will be rooting for the Beavs in whatever bowl game they get to.
Let’s just all hope that we can have many more Civil Wars with this much on the line in the future!!!
Death before Dishonor.
by MarineCorpsDuck on
Dec 1, 2008 12:56 PM PST
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I'd be a bit curious
By what you would debate about the preseason ranking. You don’t have to go into a lot of detail for I understand the point of it being too early for this type of debate to really begin, but can’t just leave me hanging there with your thoughts. I thought VD was being pretty positive about where, for I’m not so sure so high (unless yes they demolish the bowl opponent) and go more with his personal assessment.
-RVM
by rvm on
Dec 1, 2008 1:05 PM PST
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That's why we'd have to wait
I, for one, think that people take too much stock in the preseason rankings. We’ve debated VD about this subject on ATQ. We constantly hear the “overhyped” theory saying that Oregon gets overhyped in the preseason rankings. My discussion next year would be to look at where the teams are and then ask ourselves which teams below us should be ranked over us. I think we got VD to realize that his it’s more the media UNDER-hyping OSU than overhyping the Ducks. Here’s the fanpost where we had the discussion:
http://www.addictedtoquack.com/2008/11/23/668687/civil-war-write-up
Death before Dishonor.
by MarineCorpsDuck on
Dec 1, 2008 1:13 PM PST
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Okay, thanks!
Makes sense, but will admit I didn’t read through all of that for there was a lot of stuff written in those comment threads! But got the main idea behind the debate and if it makes sense (if I make sense) I think I agree with both of you.
-RVM
by rvm on
Dec 1, 2008 1:19 PM PST
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No Problem
Just curious…are you planning to apply to be an author or editor on BtD?
Death before Dishonor.
by MarineCorpsDuck on
Dec 1, 2008 1:25 PM PST
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little ole me?
I thought about it a little bit, but just don’t know if I want to commit to it. Yes, yes, from all the posting I’ve done today you would think I have the time, but just been a slow day over lunch. I kind-of like the low level commitment to come in and comment at my leisure.
Thanks for the support though! I’ll keep it in mind.
-RVM
by rvm on
Dec 1, 2008 1:53 PM PST
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you got my vote. Not that it matters lol.
Death before Dishonor.
by MarineCorpsDuck on
Dec 1, 2008 1:59 PM PST
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I have a feeling you've been told this before recently ;)
Alright time's up lez do this...
by qrsouther on
Dec 1, 2008 4:14 PM PST
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Just to be clear...
you’ve seen some comments about Nat’l champtionship over at AtQ.
Also, Masoli made the game possible from the get go. The second drive of the game, he hit 3 huge passes, which opened the game up from there. He doesn’t hit those…well…it’s a whole different game.
--www.AddictedToQuack.com, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
by jtlight on
Dec 1, 2008 1:10 PM PST
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Yes, comments
Sorry, not posts
I support Takimoto in his effort to support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.
by The VD Special on
Dec 1, 2008 2:05 PM PST
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And they weren't arrogant comments either
Or comments along the lines of “WE’RE SO AWESOME! WOO! WE’RE SO PERFECT AND AWESOME!” They were more along the lines of excitement after having seen a sophomore perform like that
I support Takimoto in his effort to support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.
by The VD Special on
Dec 1, 2008 2:06 PM PST
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Like...
“But when you go position-by-position on both sides of the ball, is there even one single player on the oregon team who could start for the Beavers?”
http://www.buildingthedam.com/2008/11/25/670381/a-serious-question-for-uc
Sorry, had to do it.
Death before Dishonor.
by MarineCorpsDuck on
Dec 1, 2008 2:07 PM PST
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Exactly... lol
But hey, there will be the “way-too-early-preseason-rankings” as soon as the Nat’l Championship game is over, so we can debate then
I think UO next year has similar (actually, almost identical) question marks as what OSU had coming into this year:
1. Yes, you return some playmakers in Blount, Masoli, a couple solid WRs, TJ Ward, etc
2. BUT you lose a lot of your offensive line and a lot of the defense
That’s why I think that, prematurely, 15-20 is a better spot for UO come preseason next year. They are going to be able to outscore lesser teams. But when it comes to playing the big boys, how are they going to handle.
And here’s to hoping that we don’t have 10 years now of the AWAY team winning. I don’t know if I can handle not seeing a victory at Reser for a while haha
I support Takimoto in his effort to support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.
by The VD Special on
Dec 1, 2008 2:11 PM PST
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Agreed to the away team thing. If we HAVE to alternate, let’s do it at home.
You are pretty much right on with our returners. A lot depends on Byrd/Thurmond and the NFL. They are both Jr’s, so if they both stay we will return Byrd, Thurmond, TJ Ward, Paysinger, Matthews, and possibly Tukuafu. We will lose a lot of linemen, both offensive and defensive, and that is often overlooked. That being said, all I heard this year was how OS’s defense would suck because they had to replace “the whole front 7”. That worked out pretty good for the Beavs though.
Death before Dishonor.
by MarineCorpsDuck on
Dec 1, 2008 2:45 PM PST
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We do lose our offensive line...
That could really suck. However, we have a ton of young talent coming ready to play, and due to injuries, those young guys have played a lot.
But unfortunately, we start @Boise, Purdue, Utah, California. So they’ll be thrown to the fire right off the bat. Though I’m not so much worried for when the Pac-10 schedule starts up, it could take a bit of time to get rolling, and we don’t get cupcakes early.
--www.AddictedToQuack.com, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
by jtlight on
Dec 1, 2008 3:14 PM PST
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Hamani Stevens baby
Alright time's up lez do this...
by qrsouther on
Dec 1, 2008 4:15 PM PST
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Props on today's post-game commentary
To you VD and to Jake as well.
I’ve mostly stayed out of the fray since Saturday night. Like VD said in another thread, the game on the field was statement enough.
One of these years I’d love to see the Ducks and Beavers play a Civil War with everything on the line and all significant starters on the field for both sides. Let’s continue to celebrate a high caliber of college football in our great state.
The silver lining of losing a Civil War…you’re guaranteed an opportunity for revenge.
Here’s to throwin’ Samoans, bowl game victories for all and much deserved top-25 rankings for both teams to start the ’09 season.
The ATQer formerly known as Seattle Quacker...oh yeah, I hate the wings.
by JConant on
Dec 1, 2008 1:27 PM PST
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i’ll drink to that.
It's spelled "M-A-R-C-H-I-N-G-B-A-N-D."
I support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.
by Takimoto on
Dec 1, 2008 1:41 PM PST
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If we win, both Oregon teams should start next seaosn in the top 25
Take that California schools! I have loved that the last few weeks its been USC and us, and I want to keep this trend going! For us next year, my main concern is the defense. I think what we need is either Nick Alloti changing his defensive scheme up (not ganna ever happen) or him getting fired (nost likely not ganna happen due to his friendship with Belloti and his connection to De La Salle in California), so hopefully our players can compensate for a inaffective scheme like they have been able to do a few years of Alloti’s tenure.
Lets have both teams playing for a BCS bowl next year come late November!
"Sometimes I catch myself watching him and he's shooting floaters all-net. And just to watch how he's talking trash. I loved it. I loved every minute of it. Rudy's a competitor." - Brandon Roy
by Trail Ducker on
Dec 1, 2008 1:42 PM PST
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Great Comments from VD & Jake
Congrats to the Duckies – a game very well played. And thanks to the great Ducks fans that post here and keep it (mostly) objective, entertaining and fun to read. :)
How great is it that the two OREGON schools tied for second in the Pac-10? If you would’ve told me prior to the season that OS would finish 8-4 and go to the Sun Bowl, (personally, I LOVE to vacation in Hell Paso!), I’d have said “I’ll take it.” I figured this was going to be a real rebuilding year, and I’m so proud of the team and the coaching staff for what they’ve done – it’s truly been the highlight of my year so far.
GO BEAVS!
by sandiegobeav on
Dec 1, 2008 2:38 PM PST
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Excited
Who’s not excited to see Moevao and Quizz against Masoli and Blount next year?
Death before Dishonor.
by MarineCorpsDuck on
Dec 1, 2008 2:47 PM PST
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You think Blount will be back? You think there is any chance at declaring early? I’m not sure he would go high, but might be high enough to be tempting?
Serious questions by the way, I’m curious.
-RVM
by rvm on
Dec 1, 2008 2:55 PM PST
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Good question
I don’t get the feeling he’ll leave, but you just never know. Honestly, I’m more worried about Byrd/Thurmond leaving early. They had all the hype before the season. They could be really good next year. I know, I know, they were supposed to be great this year. In their defense, they are both tied for 2nd in the PAC 10 in INTs and Byrd is #2 in passes defended. I think Remene Alston will be a good RB and hear a lot of hype on LaMichael James.
That’s one of the reasons I watch every game all the way to the end. I like to see the backups because they’re going to be your starters before too long.
Death before Dishonor.
by MarineCorpsDuck on
Dec 1, 2008 3:06 PM PST
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I imagine those guys will test the NFL draft waters
A 2nd round draft pick for any of them might be enough to get them to jump ship, who knows though
I support Takimoto in his effort to support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.
by The VD Special on
Dec 1, 2008 3:08 PM PST
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I don’t think Blount hasn’t had enough national coverage. I seriously doubt he’ll go.
Oregon hasn’t had the greatest national coverage this year. Well… it’s been below average.
It's spelled "S-h-u-n-b-o-w-l"
by JShufelt on
Dec 1, 2008 3:29 PM PST
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Maybe not the best national coverage
But come on, this is the NFL draft we’re talking about here
Once they see Blount’s size and speed at UO’s draft day, scouts will be drooling over him
I’m not sure coverage has as much to do with the NFL draft as you might think
I support Takimoto in his effort to support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.
by The VD Special on
Dec 1, 2008 3:36 PM PST
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Blount said earlier in the year, around the USC game I believe, that he was “for sure” coming back for his senior season to get his degree. To be honest, I think he could use the seasoning. He could work on his vision quite a bit to help him get to that next level. The knock on him right now is all you have to do is string him to the sidelines and he’s caught dead in the water.
He could change his mind however…
--Dominic
Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.
by dvieira on
Dec 1, 2008 3:56 PM PST
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True, but I just don’t get the vibe that Blount is going to declare – especially when he’ll get a better chance to be a premier back with a strong schedule. The dude is fast, but he’s often gets caught from behind, so he doesn’t have the IDEAL speed. His acceleration is probably better than his speed.
Onterio Smith got cocky and declared early, went in the 5th round and named himself the “Steel of the draft”.
On draft day, he’ll turn heads, but I bet scouts will want to watch him for a year before signing him.
It's spelled "S-h-u-n-b-o-w-l"
by JShufelt on
Dec 1, 2008 3:57 PM PST
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Blount will stay.
He can’t wait to be the featured back, and he has some great growing to do. One more year, I could see him on the Maxwell watch list next year.
Not to sound too high on him, but Blount could be one of the top in the Pac next year depending on his improvement. That is, knowledge of playbook and vision. Gary Campbell, RBs coach at Oregon, is a master at working on backs’ vision. He does this laser training thing… takes one of those tiny red laser pointers, puts it on the wall, and has them follow the dot. Sounds like 2nd grade logic, but it’s what made Jonathan Stewart so effective in his junior year, the being able to see tacklers before they see him.
Blount also is in on designing the uniforms for next year along with Jay Masoli and Darron Thomas. No joke. They’re employing players to help with uni design. You may think it’s stupid but I think that’s rather awesome.
Alright time's up lez do this...
by qrsouther on
Dec 1, 2008 4:21 PM PST
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Isn't this nice?
Everyone getting along? Yes it is. Peace, mellow…yawn…I’m tired.
And a little hungry
by echris on
Dec 1, 2008 3:17 PM PST
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Be careful with those brownies, they could be considered illegal.
:)
-RVM
by rvm on
Dec 1, 2008 3:23 PM PST
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nice post
but it would mean more if cv3000 posted it.
by Chris in JC on
Dec 1, 2008 4:11 PM PST
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Have to be honest and that some of you with your obsession with CV is getting tiresome. If it really means that much to you why don’t you draft your own pretend CV posting and respond to that.
-RVM
by rvm on
Dec 1, 2008 4:16 PM PST
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Nahhh we're just eagerly awaiting his Crow-Eating contest ;)
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by qrsouther on
Dec 1, 2008 4:22 PM PST
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Tiresome?
CV mouthing off and trolling AtQ was magnitudes worse. Not our fault that he’s spread his love all over the net and brought it home to BtD.
by grimc on
Dec 1, 2008 4:22 PM PST
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True.
Not sure if you saw it, Robert, but CV trolled ATQ occasionally, especially in game threads.
Alright time's up lez do this...
by qrsouther on
Dec 1, 2008 4:24 PM PST
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I don’t deny it, and don’t deny it was worse than this.
Just seems a bit like you all should focus energy a bit more towards other things, until that opportunity arises to directly respond to the CV. That’s all.
-RVM
by rvm on
Dec 1, 2008 4:26 PM PST
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You have my suggestion, that’s all I can give you. If the rest of us bore you all, well who’s fault is that?
Yes, “tiresome” is the phrase I used, what is the question with it?
-RVM
by rvm on
Dec 1, 2008 4:25 PM PST
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Didn't say anything about anyone being boring.
Nice straw man, though.
Anyway, if you have trouble understanding why CV has so many ardent fans, maybe you should read all his posts at AtQ and on OLive. He’s made himself quite a name, so it’s quite natural for people to want to hear from the “fun czar”.
by grimc on
Dec 1, 2008 4:38 PM PST
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Yes, okay I was trying to be funny but came out more like I was feeling cranky and punchy about it all. I have no trouble understanding by the way, trust me.
Seriously, I just don’t think it will be all that satisfying for you all who are waiting, so why not move on. I’m not looking for peace and love between us all, but as mentioned below seems like that “bridge has burnt.”
-RVM
by rvm on
Dec 1, 2008 4:44 PM PST
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Yeah, I guess I was just
eagerly waiting for some schadenfreude after the game, but I’m on board with you guys now. Water under the bridge, bridge subsequently burnt, now’s time for the clambake on the shore. :)
by grimc on
Dec 5, 2008 11:26 AM PST
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Oh, I don’t know if it was a truly overstated argument though (slightly exaggerated maybe), for it sure feels that way sometimes, but nice rebuttal.
-RVM
by rvm on
Dec 1, 2008 5:00 PM PST
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I’m actually tired too. The bridge has burnt. The dead horse has been beaten.
If he responds, cool, if not, oh well. Good luck to him, wherever he may be.
It's spelled "S-h-u-n-b-o-w-l"
by JShufelt on
Dec 1, 2008 4:37 PM PST
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El Paso?
o snap.
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by qrsouther on
Dec 1, 2008 4:38 PM PST
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Hey now… UCLA still can win. Let us not upset the Karma Queen. She can be a bitch.
It's spelled "S-h-u-n-b-o-w-l"
by JShufelt on
Dec 1, 2008 4:40 PM PST
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Owwwwwwie! Ughhhh god monkey! Get back in my butt!
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by qrsouther on
Dec 1, 2008 4:43 PM PST
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Karma Police...
arrest this man!
It's spelled "M-A-R-C-H-I-N-G-B-A-N-D."
I support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.
by Takimoto on
Dec 1, 2008 7:59 PM PST
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Thanks for this
I have real worries about our defense, especially along the line – why oh why couldn’t Wade qualify the first time around? I got in, for godssake.
Good luck wherever the Beavs end up – I can root for you without qualms, now. I have a coachcrush on Riley
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on
Dec 1, 2008 8:10 PM PST
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Holes
While the holes were huge, I think you’ve got to give Johnson and Blount more credit. But you are right on Masoli. He played a great game and even had flashes of Dixon. I sure hope Chip goes to Syracuse!
by ConnorOSU on
Dec 1, 2008 9:38 PM PST
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Air Bud
Everyone knows Air Bud was a receiver not a running back.
Robbie G. "The Beavers Suck"
by RobbieG on
Dec 1, 2008 11:40 PM PST
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flysweep!
I am now friends with butthol on Facebook. My life is complete.
It's spelled "M-A-R-C-H-I-N-G-B-A-N-D."
I support The VD Special in his support of me supporting Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.
by Takimoto on
Dec 3, 2008 3:26 PM PST
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no no no
I think what VD was trying to say was that Air Bud was such an overall athlete that he could have run through those holes, just like he could have kicked all those pat’s. After all he was a 3-sport-athlete just like Jordan Kent…albeit Kent’s father is a little more controversial than Air Bud’s was but I digress…
It's spelled S-H-U-damn it I can't think of one!
by echris on
Dec 2, 2008 10:47 AM PST
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In your heart, you know we're better.
Gee, Oregon can pass, fancy that :)
Just stopping by to express my sympathies to our “little brother.” I know it hurts, but you know what they say about payback.
On a separate topic, can we join together for once and lobby the evil empire of the north to move the Fulmer Cup to Seattle?
by Old Ducker on
Dec 2, 2008 1:18 PM PST
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nice VD...
…looks like you have the balls to admit when you’re wrong. Too bad CV doesn’t…did s/he commit suicide or something?
...who thinks that the world would be better off without KU fans...
by Duck fan in Kansas on
Dec 5, 2008 7:26 AM PST
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