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Hey guys, so big game coming up. I'll keep this short and sweet. I'm going to be doing a write up about what the Civil War means for both sets of fans later this week (probably Wed or Thurs). The game is close to our hearts for very similar, but also some very different reasons, and I want to write a story about it for BtD. Anyways, what I ask from us Beaver fans is leave your responses in the comments section: What does the CW mean to you? Leave stories about past games (not recaps, but personal experiences involved with the games) past experiences (good and bad) and overall the feeling you get when the Monday of Civil War Week means to you.

I ask only a couple things (I have asked the same over at AtQ)

1. Be intelligent. We have all heard our fair share of "we f*** gay sheep" and we know how old it is, so on the flip side the meth jokes are getting old as well. However, hippy jokes are always welcome, well, cause hippies suck and UO sucks and when I was in school I learned that if A=B and B=C then A must equal C. :-)

2. Be honest. For example, I hate hearing about Oregon all year long and how they do this and all of that. So the Civil War is the one day that can shut up Oregon fans for an entire year (except we'll still be hearing about IF they had Dixon for rest of our lives...)

3. Have fun with it. The funnier the insult, the better. Anyone can curse your mother or swear he slept with your sister (even though we all know he didn't), so be clever and original.

Anyways, appreciate the time guys and I look forward to hearing your responses, and as always, GO BEAVS BEAT OREGON

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Kinda like what you said

All the money they get, the pre-season hype, and different uniform combos don’t make any difference when the game clock starts. Thats when you figure out who has the better team. Past games don’t matter and past off the field events don’t matter, its just pure determination to see who is the best in the state of Oregon.

Woof

by Charles Barkley McLovin on Nov 23, 2008 3:31 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

No, CV is as smart as a Beaver fan as they come

And I’m not exaggerating. While he has his moments that even leave me scratching my head, no doubt will he have some intelligent commentary that we shall all enjoy

Oregon State: where play action defense and healthy QBs thrive

by The VD Special on Nov 23, 2008 4:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Here's my take on the Civil War

Especially at home. This state is divided right down the middle between Duck fans and Beaver fans. A lot of the valley is Duck fans, but you go to eastern, southern, or coastal Oregon, and the majority is Beaver fans. It makes this state go nuts, and I love it. Having the Civil War at Reser means a lot for a number of reasons.
1. It is indisputable how important home field advantage is in this game. Even last year, when we should have blown Oregon out of the water (and nobody should deny this) the Ducks hung with us and came back and nearly won. Even though Eugene and Corvallis aren’t far, and many times the teams stay in their respective cities the night before the game, it stills mean a lot.
2. Aside from Hawai’i a couple years ago, this is the last game for our seniors. Having it at home means that much more for these guys. It’s the last chance for them to play against the team they (should) hate the most. Seniors have always been a huge key to our teams, and this year is no different. We should never forget that. I’ll write a post about what seniors we need to remember later this week.
3. It is a special time of year. It’ll be perfect Oregon weather being at the end of November every year. Whether it’s pouring down rain and freezing, or sunny and low-50s, we Oregonians love it. We relish it. It’s what makes our state the best.
4. It is a game that features the opposite of nearly every facet of life. Unlike many rivalries (UNC-Duke, Ohio St-Michigan, Florida-Georgia) this rivalry extends beyond just one sport. It extends beyond sports in general. Conservatives vs Liberals. Farmers vs Hippies. Science school vs Liberal school. Small town v Big city. Blue collar vs White collar. Nearly everything about the schools is different. It’s what fuels the rivalry. It’s what makes it great. And it’s why many announcers dub it one of the most hated rivalries in college football. The gameday crew touched on it last year. Lou Holtz said he’s never seen so much difference between college football fans: this includes Ohio St-Michigan, Alabama-Auburn, and Texas-Oklahoma. It is, in my humble opinion, the greatest rivalry in sports. It may not have the history, it may not have the tradition, but that’s why it’s the best. Because the hate is there. Think Ohio St-Michigan would be huge if they weren’t two of the greatest football programs of all time? Think Alabama-Auburn cares what happens between the two in basketball? I didn’t think so. When these teams were bad, the fans still cared. It used to be, the Civil War was the only game that mattered for both fans, because there were no bowl games for us, there was no Phil Knight, there was no Reser Stadium. It was just good versus evil. And that was that.

Oregon State: where play action defense and healthy QBs thrive

by The VD Special on Nov 23, 2008 4:36 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

White collar? Big city?

All the parallels you stated actually may be better fit with WSU-UW.

Alright time's up lez do this...

by qrsouther on Nov 23, 2008 4:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

uh....? WOW. No. That's not the difference.
Conservatives vs Liberals. Farmers vs Hippies. Small town v Big city. Blue collar vs White collar.

Those are all incredibly overblown, vastly inaccurate stereotypes that we should really put an end to.

Corvallis and OSU students are as liberal as it gets. Yeah, you can study agriculture at OSU—and it is very important—but, there’s just as many hippies in Corvallis as anywhere else in Oregon/the West Coast. If you’re comparing Corvallis to Eugene, Eugene is larger, but they’re both small towns and there’s nothing that Eugene has that Corvallis doesn’t, except for a Federal Courhouse—which, I guess it’s more convenient for the Bellotti Family, but irrelevant to most. Most Beavers live in Portland, just like most ducks. White collar vs. Blue collar is equally silly.

That’s not the difference. It’s something else.

Roses are Orange.

by CV3000 on Nov 23, 2008 5:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Serious question: Is there more Beavers than Ducks in Portland?

I’ve always thought Portland, aside from proximity, seemed more of a Beaver town than a Duck town. Not sure why, but I’ve seen a lot of orange and black flags, car window stickers, etc. Not sure though, do you know?

Alright time's up lez do this...

by qrsouther on Nov 23, 2008 5:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

*Are there more Beavers than Ducks

Bah, that sure was a bushism.

Alright time's up lez do this...

by qrsouther on Nov 23, 2008 5:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

About the same.

My guess is that it just seems like way more Beavers than what you’re used to in Eugene. But there’s a lot in Eugene, too.

Roses are Orange.

by CV3000 on Nov 23, 2008 5:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

I think I’ve seen a lot of those in suburban areas too… Northeast, Prescott, Maywood Park area.

Alright time's up lez do this...

by qrsouther on Nov 23, 2008 5:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

um...that's part of the difference.

Incredibly overblown? – maybe somewhat. Still, the stereotypes and the generalizations all hold a significant weighty portion of this rivalry. It is true that UO and OSU students are both liberal. Tell me, what college student body isn’t brainwashed left? Nonetheless, Eugene and Corvallis are worlds apart in many respects. Corvallis has their imitators. But Eugene looks down their noses at gatherings like Friday night at the Beanery in Corvallis, and with a snooty lisp exclaims, “Cha! Tool Wannabees!”

There is a huge difference between Eugene’s Country Fair and Corvallis’ Da Vinci days. And perhaps you have never accidentally stepped into one of Eugene’s hole in the wall, hippie, new age, tie dyed, pot paraphernalia/lingerie stores for transsexual lesbians – complete with tons of Gary Coleman posters on the wall. Indeed, Eugene has some “stuff” that Corvallis doesn’t. Perhaps the seedier streets of Eugene have passed you by. Perhaps the ones of Corvallis have passed me by, but I think I’ve seen most of it there.

Eugene has their anarchists, and Corvallis has their county extension agents. I think that the Civil War epitomizes those differences to a certain degree. But I don’t think that every duck football player is a hippie, and not every beaver is an aggie.

Well. Yes I do think that. But I know I’m wrong. It just helps me hate the ducks. Nothing against hippies.

I had one friend who grew up on a hippie commune just south of Eugene, and she put it this way: “Eugene is the place where hippies that get kicked out of San Fransisco go.” She saw the light, and became an Alpha Gamma Delta at OSU.

What I couldn’t understand from VD’s post was this:
(The Civil War)

may not have the history, it may not have the tradition, but that’s why it’s the best.

VD, perhaps you missed this:
http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindbeaversbeat/2008/11/civil_war_the_complete_gamebyg.html

Perhaps you meant that the history just isn’t loaded with national, or even regional, importance every year. In that case, you may be generally right.

All in all folks, I think we will see two very improved teams hit the field this Saturday. Should be a good game. Go Beavs!

Jeremy

by olzeke on Nov 24, 2008 6:33 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Last years Civil War at autzen, me and two buds were front row endzone.

We got our pictures taken throughout the game and this one ended up on the front page of the Gazzette Times the next day.

by ColeFitz88 on Nov 23, 2008 8:53 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Overblown? I think not.

When you go to a school, you take on that school’s personality. That’s what I’ve gathered. So yes, Oregon State has many liberals (what would you expect coming from a state bluer than the Pacific?) but it has quite a few more conservatives. The blue collar v white collar isn’t all wrong either. A lot of Oregon State students, because of the ag and forestry programs, come from small, rural Oregon towns all across the state. A lot of Oregon students are sons and daughters of middle to upper class families in California. They don’t share the same mentality at all. Small town versus big city mentality, how is that overblown? Last I checked, Corvallis was a city of barely 50,000, with a real small town feel to it, and a lot of rural around it. Eugene itself is running around 150,000 (which may not be BIG, but is most definitely not small, as some would classify Corvallis) and has a lot of the same big city “feel” to it. It’s why it is attractive to a lot of kids from SoCal- it’s the closest thing you’re going to find to LA in a college town. Farmers vs hippies overblown? Doubtful. While Oregon State and Corvallis has its fair share of free spirits (again, it’s Oregon), Eugene is known for it. It’s Berkeley north. And how many farm kids do you see walking around the campus at UO? Almost none.

Look, I know that these aren’t exact reasons, but it’s a personality that you really take on when rooting for either the Ducks or the Beavs. Look at our team (which exemplifies Coach Riley, who grew up in Corvallis), we have this chip on our shoulder, blue collar attitude. Never taking a play off. Working ‘til the final whistle. A very rural attitude. And our fans take on that same exact attitude. We love hard nose defense and grind um up offense. It’s what gives us our personality. We try to win every game with defense. Look at the Ducks. They are the flashiest team in the country since the days of the old U at Miami. Every game produces a new jersey and a bazillion points. They love scoring in bunches, but also give up a lot of points. They try to outscore the opponents. And the fans love it. They love the jerseys. They love the high powered offense. They think we’re boring. We think they’re out of their mind. It’s the way it is.

So yes, while not every Oregon fan/student is a big city slicker running around with popper collars and Grey Goose, and not every Oregon State fan/student is a country bumpkin who runs around in flannel and Jack Daniels, they are the personalities we take on as fans in the stadiums every Saturday, and they couldn’t be more different from each other.

Oregon State: where play action defense and healthy QBs thrive

by The VD Special on Nov 24, 2008 8:10 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

How do you spot those farm kids?

Is it the piece of straw hanging from the mouth (guys)?

Is it the Li’l Abner shorty-short cutoff jeans (gals)?

by Joe A. on Nov 24, 2008 10:45 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And olzeke

That’s exactly what I meant. It has rarely had national importance, and very often is it the decider for a conference championship or a big time bowl game. But that was my point, the game always still matters. Back in the day, when Oregon was a farming state, the Civil War was many times the only thing that the residents of the state had. And you can feel that passion every time the two teams step on the field to face each other. Anyone who has been to the Civil War knows: there’s a hate and passion that run so much deeper then just football.

Oregon State: where play action defense and healthy QBs thrive

by The VD Special on Nov 24, 2008 8:14 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

not very often*

Oregon State: where play action defense and healthy QBs thrive

by The VD Special on Nov 24, 2008 8:14 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Remember when...

Little Joey and Simonton were on the cover of SI the week of the Civil War? It was a cheesy photo, but I remember being pretty stoked at the time. Plus we won that year.

by Orange and Black Legacy on Nov 24, 2008 9:24 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

The view from afar...

A job brought me to San Diego this year, and although I’ve traveled a great deal for work in the past, I am missing being up there more than ever, (I still make every home game though, and also the win over UCLA at the Rose Bowl).

I think what makes the CW so special, as VD mentioned earlier, is that us “older” Beavs had to survive such awful, mind-numbing football seasons, yet we always felt that we could win the CW, regardless of how bad it was – I remember being at the basketball game when they introduced Craig Fertig, (RIP),as the new coach and he said “we’re going to the Rose Bowl!” Ouch! Really?! At some point, reality trumps enthusiasm, I guess.

All of the rain, all of the fumbles, interceptions – didn’t mean a thing, because we KNEW that we a chance to beat the equally hideous Ucks, and at that time, that meant everything to us. That’s why the past several years have been so gratifying and amazing to me, and why I keep buying the season tickets and contributing – because I don’t want us to ever be in that position again.

Now there are always the stories about pranks on the Ducks, (a foolhardy attempt to drop dead ducks on parachutes from a light plane over Autzen at halftime of a CW game – glad the statute of limitations has expired on that one), and I’m sure y’all will provide more and more as the week goes on. Be thankful that we have the coach and team that we do, and that we’re FINALLY going to make it to the “Grandaddy” this year…see you on Saturday and…

GO BEAVS!

by sandiegobeav on Nov 24, 2008 4:41 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

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