Oregon State 28-26 Utah

by The VD Special on Oct 3, 2008 11:22 AM PDT

Is what the score SHOULD have been. But I'm not going to sit here and point fingers at the ref. The ref did not throw us in prevent D. The ref did not fumble the ball away. The ref did not stop us from running the ball. The refs did not not open holes for Quizz when we did run the ball. This one stings A LOT. A las, we should be 4-1 and top 15, but we're 2-3 with a solid win against SC. And think about this: if we don't play the game of our lives against SC we're looking at 1-4 and 0-2 heading into the Pac 10 schedule, with the Emerald Bowl probably our best bet at a bowl game. However, we do need to keep our heads up. IF we can somehow manage to win out, then we will be Pac 10 champs. 1 more loss and we could be looking at a Holiday Bowl. Our season is not over yet guys. But I ask, who's to blame here? Please vote and leave some comments so we can get some good discussion.

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Who's to blame for the loss to Utah?

Mike Riley and his Coordinators: What the HELL was that playcalling last night? Did we learn nothing from Stanford and PSU?

79 votes

Lyle Moevao: needs to know NOT to throw it right at Utah players.

6 votes

The OLine and Quizz: He did have 101 yards rushing on only 25 carries, but he had a long of 33. Take that away and you're looking at only 2.8 YPC

10 votes

OK fine, it WAS the ref's fault. HOW DO YOU CALL THAT?!

57 votes

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What does Mike Riley accomplish by throwing for 300 yards?

We are not a passing team. I know it was taking a while for Quizz to get going, but you run it down there throats and then when they stack the box you throw little slants and crossing routes, going deep every once in a while.

Our players didn’t do anything really bad last night.

They just didn’t do anything really good.

And the missed FG and 2 missed XPs and what I thought should have been a safety hurts. So does not scoring when we had the ball 1st down at the Utah 15. All in all, this game hurts. Worse than Stanford.

The Artist Formerly Known as OrState GoBeavs

by The VD Special on Oct 3, 2008 11:25 AM PDT 0 recs

Feel your pain

I’m a Charger fan and I SCREAM the same thing at the TV every time Schottenheimer/Turner abandon giving the ball to LT. Sometimes I think coaches try to get way too smart. On the bright side, you only have 1 nonconference loss, so if the Beavs continue the trend of the strong finish, Holiday Bowl is nowhere near out of the question. Plus, how recent seasons have gone, I still wouldn’t rule out USC in the national championship game if they win out. Everyone talks about how it can’t happen, but they said the same thing about BOTH LSU and tOSU last year. If that happens, 2nd place PAC10 could still be Rose Bowl bound. I’ve seen crazier things happen…

I like the yellow helmets!

by MarineCorpsDuck on Oct 3, 2008 12:05 PM PDT up 0 recs

Yeah but it's just frustrating

We are so close to being a top tier Pac 10 program. I dunno. We need to step up in the early season. But yes, the season isn’t anywhere near over for us. We can rebound from this but it’s going to take a good rest of the year

The Artist Formerly Known as OrState GoBeavs

by The VD Special on Oct 3, 2008 12:22 PM PDT up 0 recs

Totally agree

‘nuff’ said

-RVM

by rvm on Oct 3, 2008 12:28 PM PDT up 0 recs

Frustration

I know what you mean. Our well-chronicled recent late-season collapses are pretty damn frustrating. Once you see a game like you saw last Thursday you KNOW what the team can do and it makes it that much harder when they don’t duplicate that performance every week. We all know you guys are gonna catch fire and roll through the PAC 10. I hope the Civil War is played for the conference championship!

I like the yellow helmets!

by MarineCorpsDuck on Oct 3, 2008 1:29 PM PDT up 0 recs

Not sure I totally see your point about passing

I actually thought that was what they were doing, which really showed on that last TD for OSU where they stacked the box and Lyle rolled out.

If you are thinking not enough slates and crossing routes then I see your point and agree for look at the big gainers we got. Those were the slants and short screens to the outside where Quizz had room to run.

Oh, and by the way I’ve been pretty down about this game but that move Quizz put on the defender on the sideline to gain about 15 more yards on that last TD drive was incredible. This team might be hard to watch sometimes but he’s worth the price of admission and then some.

-RVM

by rvm on Oct 3, 2008 12:26 PM PDT up 0 recs

slates = slants

sorry, I did get it right the second time!

-RVM

by rvm on Oct 3, 2008 12:34 PM PDT up 0 recs

Special Teams?

Where is the option on the poll for find a new kicker? I know Kahut leg injury has healed but what about the injury to his brain? A missed PAT has OSU chasing points all night and any kicker since Jose Cortez is kicking and the Beavs win this game.

Last nights loss was the most frustrating since LSU in 2004. I’m still fuming.

by beavers415 on Oct 3, 2008 12:57 PM PDT 0 recs

Yeah I forgot that

Right after I posted it and remembered I needed to put that option on there. Special teams has been AWFUL for us this year

The Artist Formerly Known as OrState GoBeavs

by The VD Special on Oct 3, 2008 1:02 PM PDT up 0 recs

Evensen down in Eugene has been a massive disappointment this year as well...

Touted as a Groza candidate preseason… misses PATs left and right, his kickoffs are also getting worse.

Your friendly neighborhood placekicker.

by butthol on Oct 3, 2008 2:34 PM PDT up 0 recs

Yes, but yet

I totally understand for he left 4 points on the field for us, but at the same time why keep going for 2 points? I put that one on Riley. Again even one more made PAT and the last two minutes changes for Utah’s game plan. Maybe they still get in FG range for that seemed for their kicker anywhere within 55 yards, but still Kahut did make that last PAT and that was huge to go to 8 instead of 7. There was a bit of pressure there to make it.

I noticed there was a good amount of comments wishing we had Serna back and I’m sure after the LSU game many of us were asking for a change there! So let’s just see on the kicker deal.

-RVM

by rvm on Oct 3, 2008 2:46 PM PDT up 0 recs

Scratching my head still...

To quote the great C+C Music Factory, here are some “Things that make you go Hmmmm”—or at least some things that made me go “What?!”:

-I hate whining about refs but here goes: holding on the line was bad and went uncalled all game and the call in the end zone was pretty freaking bad.

-Clock management at the end of the game was strange. Did we REALLY leave three timeouts on the table? Am I missing something here?

-Who the hell is Rice Eccles?

-Why is there such a high concentration of ugly people in SLC?

-Kicking… wow. They give out scholarships for that? Looked good on that field goal but jeez, we have a real problem there.

-Going for 2… and not getting it. What’s worse than being denied trying to go for 2? Being denied on back to back tries after getting a second chance on a Utah penalty.

Like whoa.

End of the day, they still have to live in SLC and they’re still Utah. God I hate losing to the Mtn. West like this though. The moral victory is only so sweet.

Should be a good football weekend regardless.

by ArbyOSU on Oct 3, 2008 2:38 PM PDT 0 recs

I watched the game again last night

And I now choose the refs. On the broken play where Johnson threw to a WIDE OPEN wide receiver in the end zone, their left tackle TACKLED Slade Norris I believe, who was coming off the edge to beat the living shit out of the QB. Should have been holding and force them to a 3rd and 21 I believe.

The Artist Formerly Known as OrState GoBeavs

by The VD Special on Oct 3, 2008 2:59 PM PDT 0 recs

we are all...

pretty $%#in cranky about this game aren’t we?

For hells sake I know I am!

-RVM

by rvm on Oct 3, 2008 3:05 PM PDT up 0 recs

I took Stanford with a grain of salt

I could at least say “hey we’re inexperienced and playing on the road to start the year”

This one, not so much. We absolutely dominated Utah in every aspect, and we owned the 2nd half minus 2 minutes.
That is what I’m most frustrated and cranky about.
I might head to the House of Loud tonight to pick up some of that dank ass ganj to calm my nerves. There might not be any left though, I imagine the Duckies are getting ready to smoke themselves silly after the ass whipping they are about to receive tomorrow :-)

The Artist Formerly Known as OrState GoBeavs

by The VD Special on Oct 3, 2008 3:11 PM PDT up 0 recs

totally with you

Stanford = yep

Utah = yep

Totally feeling the frustration, usually I’m like okay moving on but this one just got under my skin.

-RVM

by rvm on Oct 3, 2008 3:24 PM PDT up 0 recs

Is there an all of the above on the poll?
Actually, I don’t really blame Quizz. He was a beast when you figure in his all-purpose yards.

29 Touches
177 Yards
6.1 Avg/Touch

The ending of the game wasn’t entirely in OSU’s hands (Thanks refs), and some of the choices in the very end were… I was scratching my head. I agree with choice of the two point conversions. But the high, short kickoff, among gameplan play calling and clock management… I dunno. Despite excellent execution for the most part – I never felt that they played to their strengths.

Still, Riley and Co. are a lot smarter than I am and I’m just a casual OSU fan in front of a computer – that is wearing a duck hat.

It's spelled "S-h-u-f-a-i-l"

by JShufelt on Oct 3, 2008 4:29 PM PDT 0 recs

Here's why I blame the refs.

Yes, there was some questionable choices to go for two. Sure there was some bad kicking in the game. Of course the clock was not managed the way it should have been. But none of that mattered.

The Beavers won the game.

And then 15 seconds later a ref was intimidated by the crowd into throwing a flag for something he didn’t see.

I mean, if that’s PI, what is the defender supposed to do in that situation? Should Layborn have dove out of the receiver’s way? Should he have hit the dirt so the receiver could step over him? No, he did exactly what you want everyone defending the pass to do: stand between where the receiver is and where the ball was thrown. To flag a guy for standing there is unconscionable, especially when that play is a 2 point conversion for the tie. It wasn’t a close call, it wasn’t a judgment call, it wasn’t a “that could have gone either way” contact call. It was just wrong.

I can accept that there were times the team didn’t execute. I can accept there were times when the coaches made the wrong decision. I can not accept an official telling a team that just won the game, “not so fast…” because the home crowd was booing.

As far as I’m concerned, this was a Win.

by Brad Grenz on Oct 3, 2008 6:23 PM PDT 0 recs

As far as I’m concerned, this was a Win.

Scoreboard

by Chris in JC on Oct 3, 2008 8:25 PM PDT up 0 recs

The Reciever Stepped Out of Bounds

You can’t see it on the Versus replay, but when he was running his route he stepped out of the back of the endzone, then turned around to try and catch the ball. Riley confirmed it in an interview with the Gazette Times. He also said for OOC road games they will try and get neutral conference officials so there is no conference bias.

by OSU on Oct 6, 2008 6:13 PM PDT 0 recs