Draft- Week 10 Power Rankings
by Jake Bertalotto on Oct 26, 2008 1:16 PM PDT
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Your input is appreciated:
- USC
- Cal
- OSU
- UO
- Arizona
- Stanford
- ASU
- UCLA
- UW
- WSU
2-6 seems interchangable at this point.
This is kinda the way I'm looking at it right now.
Level 1: USC
Level 2: Cal, OSU, UO, Arizona, Stanford
Level 3: ASU, UCLA
Level 4: UW, WSU
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Obviously a draft.
Why would Cal be 2nd and not OSU or Arizona?
Arizona beat Cal, and they’re the only team besides OSU that didn’t wet their pants against USC.
by CV3000 on Oct 26, 2008 2:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I guess I'm reluctant to put the Beavs at #2.
And I’m still not sure if UA is the real deal.
--JB--
by Jake Bertalotto on Oct 26, 2008 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's okay to be reluctant, but...Cal got wiped out by Maryland and Zona and should not be 2nd.
We’ll know a lot more about them next weekend.
by CV3000 on Oct 26, 2008 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you can drop Stanford down a tier
they will be competeing for the 5th or 6th spot.
and i think Arizona is about to implode… now.
OSU, UO, and Cal are the only ones from that tier who have a legitimate chance at the #2 or even #1 spot
Woof
by Charles Barkley McLovin on Oct 26, 2008 2:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Arizona is still playing for a bowl game, which is something their current players have never done.
This is Arizona’s best season in a really long time. And they’re playing to save their coach’s job. While I’m not convinced that most players probably like to play for Stoops—since he’s such a bastard— I’m sure they want to play in a bowl game of some kind.
After his dozens of accumulated concussions,Tuitama deserves to play in a bowl game.
by CV3000 on Oct 26, 2008 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
if Washington played Arizona's schedule
they would be bowl eligible
Woof
by Charles Barkley McLovin on Oct 26, 2008 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, Ted Miller. That's not true.
They would still have to find a way to win 2 conference games.
Ain’t happening this year.
by CV3000 on Oct 26, 2008 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hhhhmmm no
they might have 3 wins put no way they go to a bowl game
uw sucks
by Duck4Lif3 on Oct 26, 2008 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
UA has a legit shot to implode in Wildcat fashion.
But they could also rebound and finish high in the conference. UO and OSU are tied at second, Cal is at fourth, Arizona fifth, Stanford sixth.
by Cablinasian on Oct 26, 2008 2:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This might sound biased but...
But UO still has yet to beat anybody of importance, and the two good teams they’ve played so far they lost (USC, Boise State). This will change if they can leave Berkeley with a W this weekend.
Yes, I hang Oregon State’s laurels on beating USC, but again I say, that’s still more than the Duckies so far. 2 of our three loses came on the road to two top 11 teams. Yes, we can’t seem to win on the road against better than average competition (yet) but we also haven’t lost at home, something the Ducks did do. That’s why I would say we are not tied at this point.
UA’s defense looked good against SC’s offense, so I would rank them higher than 5th. And they did beat Cal so you can’t have Cal higher than them at this point. I’m still waiting for the Wildcat implosion but a 7 point loss to USC doesn’t point to any signs of that happening soon…
1. USC
2. Oregon State
3. Oregon
4. Arizona
5. Cal
6. Stanford
7. ASU
8. UCLA
9. UW
10. WSU
Oregon State: where play action defense and healthy QBs thrive
by The VD Special on Oct 26, 2008 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
John Hunt said it best:
Oregon’s wins have come against teams with a cumulative record of 9-36.
Its losses have come against teams that are a combined 12-1.
Woof
by Charles Barkley McLovin on Oct 26, 2008 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's pretty normal to have unbalanced stats like that. Most teams are like that most years.
They just had a really, REALLY weak out of conference schedule and played—apart from USC— the worst half of the conference first.
It’s just a weird fluke. Unfortunately, it means that they don’t know what they have. We know that they’re not horrible, but we don’t really know if they’re any good at all either.
We also know how they usually play this time of year. So, yeah.
by CV3000 on Oct 26, 2008 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
Aside from us, I think they are the most intriguing team in the conference. But the teams they have beaten have an AVERAGE record of 1.33-6. You’re absolutely right though, they aren’t horrible. And on any given night they have the talent to beat the best in the Pac 10. But if they show up or not the rest of the season remains to be seen.
Oregon State: where play action defense and healthy QBs thrive
by The VD Special on Oct 26, 2008 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was with you until you said...
…talent to beat the best.
It’s really just average talent for the conference. They fade so often due to lack of talent.
by CV3000 on Oct 26, 2008 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
fixed
They fade so often due to lack of depth.
--Dominic
Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.
by dvieira on Oct 26, 2008 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They've got to have talent CV
No team with that poor of coaching could ever make a bowl game without talent
Oregon State: where play action defense and healthy QBs thrive
by The VD Special on Oct 26, 2008 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm just saying they don't have more than any average team in this conference...
…and they don’t. That’s why they fade every year.
Their coaches tend to neglect the defensive side of the ball and their offensive line last year had a total of 3 scholarship offers out of high school—not exactly thrilling.
Some day their fans will realize that there’s really not much to brag about.
by CV3000 on Oct 26, 2008 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But that also was one of the best O-lines in the country last year...
Your friendly neighborhood placekicker.
by qrsouther on Oct 26, 2008 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
according to the same people who think the d-pends are one of the best secondaries...
….themselves.
The lesson here is that nearly all oregon hype is self-generated.
Like Public Enemy said: Don’t believe don-don believe. Don’t believe the hype.
by CV3000 on Oct 26, 2008 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just so you know
Oregon and Oregon State have practically the same schedule going down the stretch. If I were you, I would be more worried about playing Arizona in the desert. That game looks more and more like trouble for you in each passing week.
Speaking of hype, you are 4-3 with such wins over the Washington schools and Hawaii. You beat USC who was overconfident and plays terrible at Reser in recent memory. Seriously, you are just in a precarious position as Oregon is. Don’t get yourself jacked up on roids just because you beat USC. Outside of that, you haven’t done anything of substance yet…just like Oregon hasn’t.
--Dominic
Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.
by dvieira on Oct 26, 2008 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
beating USC = substance
Woof
by Charles Barkley McLovin on Oct 26, 2008 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No no no...don't you get it?
The Duck fan is correct and beating USC is only a half credit, this make so much sense I’m going to petition the Pac-10 to give us only 1/2 a win for that one…
-RVM
by rvm on Oct 27, 2008 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's only half a win because we only shut them out for one half
My favorite thing about that game is when people say that USC “adjusted” to QUIZZ and “shut him down” in the 2nd half.
Uh…he had like 80 yards from scrimmage in the 2nd half.
by CV3000 on Oct 27, 2008 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sigh
I never said it should be half credit. I give you all the credit in the world for beating USC. What I’m trying to get across is that Oregon State, during the Riley era, has a team that is built to beat up on teams like USC and their type of offense/defensive schemes. Contrary to what most people seem to think, beating USC was not a huge surprise to me. Look at the last decade of games between USC and Oregon State, especially in Reser. The same concept can be applied when you look out across at USC. They are built to beat up on teams like Ohio State.
The point I am making is that you are hanging your hat on beating USC which you have traditionally done well against. Your other wins are against the bottom of the conference and Hawaii.
I know you are super excited about beating USC but you are 4-3 with a lot of room to go in the season with teams that don’t run the same style of Offensive/Defensive combination that is optimal for Oregon State to beat.
--Dominic
Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.
by dvieira on Oct 27, 2008 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Umm...hate to break it to you...
…pretty much the only team that plays well in Reser Stadium is the Beavers.
OSU is built to beat any team in the Pac-10.
I would love to know, on an intellectual level, what you’re trying to articulate with the offensive/defensive combination idea that you have…but I would need to hear something/anything that makes sense. Shepherd me down this path.
by CV3000 on Oct 27, 2008 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was cranky about this
You beat USC who was overconfident and plays terrible at Reser in recent memory.
You are implying that USC “lost” the game and we did not “win” it.
Oh, I do get a little tired of this logic: “They are built to beat up on teams like Ohio State.” When I read this my gut reaction is okay, okay already so you seem to think USC is all about beating “better” teams. So I guess that means that UO is a better team? I doubt this is what you truly mean but the implications are there.
And yes we are hanging our hat on this win for it was a damn good W.
Look ASU was a strong win for you guys, but this stuff makes me grumpy.
-RVM
by rvm on Oct 27, 2008 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure, I’ll bite CV. Here’s an example. USC runs a very pro-style offensive set. Oregon State, historically, prides itself on speed from sideline to sideline. USC has a lot of trouble running around the edges on Oregon State because of the speed of the defensive line as well as the linebacking core. The speed also comes into play on the pass rush. USC’s offensive line is built for a thicker style of defensive line, ala Ohio State. For Oregon State in the matchup, speed is king in the front 7 and provides a very distinct advantage over USC’s offensive structure and what they try to do
To RVM’s comments, I think its a double-edged sword. I think USC gave parts of that game away and Oregon State took advantage in each case. OSU played lights out and USC didn’t have their best effort. You combine that with the matchup problems that OSU makes for USC and you have the performance that we witnessed. If it wasn’t for Reggie Bush in the fog bowl, you would have beaten them that year too due to much the same issues. Truth be told, they have played terribly at Reser (as judging by how good a team they are) and they did go into that game thinking they were just going to destroy you. You made them pay for all the reasons mentioned and I have every confidence that it would go the same way given the conditions and personnel.
I think Ohio State is extremely overrated. I used Ohio State because they are the most apparent example of what I’m talking about and USC played them this year. I could have just as well used Virginia I suppose. I think Oregon State would actually do very well against Ohio State, especially if the game was in Reser. OSU presents the same matchup issues with Ohio State that they do with USC. Just because I mentioned Ohio State doesn’t mean I think they are better than Oregon State.
I don’t think Oregon is a better team, I think Oregon is a “different” team which would provide a great matchup. That’s why the power rankings with Oregon and Oregon State being interchangeable most of the year are so telling. The civil war game from last year was an amazing game both in outcome and contrast between styles. There were several points in that game where it could have gone the other way and this year is looking to be no exception. I actually made a point about saying that Oregon and Oregon State are in the same boat at the end of the post and I still stand by that
I will say that although I was happy to see the ASU win, they are a bad team this year. We may have played one of our best games this year but you guys should crush them at home. I would be surprised at anything less.
--Dominic
Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.
by dvieira on Oct 27, 2008 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
It bugs me. We came out, punched them in the mouth, did everything wrong, and forced them into everything wrong. When they started coming back, we regrouped and held our ground, won the game, and the rest is history. We absolutely did everything right that game.
Oregon State: where play action defense and healthy QBs thrive
by The VD Special on Oct 27, 2008 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did everything right*
Oregon State: where play action defense and healthy QBs thrive
by The VD Special on Oct 27, 2008 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
certainly not in dispute. My basic premise is that you have some really tough games at the end of the season and just because you beat USC doesn’t make them some how less difficult. The rest of your wins are games you should have won against bad teams.
Oregon has the same issues with their wins.
--Dominic
Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.
by dvieira on Oct 27, 2008 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
For the most part
I don’t have an issue with the tough games upcoming. Even the ones we should be winning will be tough in that they mean so much more now, lots of pressure. Same with the Ducks.
Just the way some of the Ws get framed. By the way I don’t think Hawaii is a “bad” team. I think Purdue and the Washington schools are, but I personally think that Hawaii win is very much underrated. Sure they are not great and a shadow of themselves (even in their overrated past) but you know they still have a shot a bowl game (and we didn’t take them to OT).
Look the ASU win there was a good win for you all. If we play the “what if” game though then what if ASU’s offense was able to punch it in on the nine after the UO fumbled instead of the INT and put the Ducks on their heels? I doubt you look at that as the Dun Devils “lost” the game to you, you see it as the Ducks responded put pressure on the QB, got the INT, and didn’t look back and ran all over them. Look I’m saying it was a good win!!! You have a chance to beat Cal! So stop dogging on our wins!
-RVM
by rvm on Oct 27, 2008 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So stop dogging on our wins!
I appreciate what you are saying RVM but I’m not “dogging” your wins. I’m making the claim that your wins (outside of USC) aren’t any better than Oregon’s wins. So if I’m dogging anyone, I’m dogging both programs saying both have more to prove and the next few weeks are going to play it out for both programs. The meat is coming up for both teams. I think we agree on that
What I don’t agree with is the assertion by some here that because of the USC win, the Beavs are head and shoulders above the badly coached, no talent team to the south. The resumes of both teams are fairly close despite the USC win.
--Dominic
Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.
by dvieira on Oct 27, 2008 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
WELL....
…it was fun listening. I guess.
I’m still not really sure what you were trying to say about the matchups. Those are pretty much the same things that all football teams try to do.
I will save my main opinion for next week’s FUN FACT.
by CV3000 on Oct 27, 2008 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will save my main opinion for next week’s FUN FACT.
Oh how I will use this quote against you…
Mwhahahaha*cough*haha*coughcough*
It's spelled "S-h-u-D-u-c-k"
by JShufelt on Oct 27, 2008 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK. Suuuuure.
Lack of depth=lack of talent.
by CV3000 on Oct 27, 2008 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It could be a tendency to underrate OSU to avoid being labeled a homer.
I still think OSU would beat Oregon, especially at Reser. UO has beaten no one, and hasn’t shown the ability to beat even an average team.
As far as Arizona, I guess I’m expecting a huge letdown from them soon. History repeats itself… I just see UA falling. I also see UO losing games, so I guess by the end of the season I think the standings will be:
1. USC
t1. OSU
3. Cal
4. Arizona
5. UO
6. Stanford
But that’s a topic for another day.
by Cablinasian on Oct 26, 2008 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think it will be something like this
1 usc
2-5 up in the air no one knows but this weekend we will get a clue… uo at cal
6 Stanford
7 asu
8 ucla
9 uw
10 wsu
GO DUCKS!!!!
by Duck4Lif3 on Oct 27, 2008 4:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Here's the $1 million dollar question
Does a Duck win over Cal or Cal win over UO warrant that #2 Pac 10 power ranking? This would force them jumping over OSU.
Think about it, assuming Oregon State handles ASU:
Oregon State will be 5-3 with their best win over USC, and 2 losses to undefeated teams on the road
The winner of the Duck/Cal game will be 6-2 with their best win coming against the other team (should be noted, that neither team is as good as USC) however, UO winning on the road would be more impressive than Cal winning at home.
I still say OSU stays #2 with the winner of UO/Cal establishing themselves as #2a. until all teams play each other.
Go Beavs
Oregon State: where play action defense and healthy QBs thrive
by The VD Special on Oct 27, 2008 10:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Also, everyone wants to point to our record...
But let’s say instead of playing #11 Utah on the road, we played Utah State at home. Now we are 6-2 (after this weekend) and do you still put us behind UO or Cal? I definitely think not…
Oregon State: where play action defense and healthy QBs thrive
by The VD Special on Oct 27, 2008 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And instead of playing Penn State
We play Purdue
by Cablinasian on Oct 27, 2008 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha I'll keep the Penn State game
I’m not saying Boise State at home is the same quality as PSU on the road, but I’ll give them the fact that they had 2 poor games (Purdue, Utah St) and 1 quality OOC game.
Oregon State: where play action defense and healthy QBs thrive
by The VD Special on Oct 27, 2008 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Utah for Utah State
We can do that. Then can we trade Boise State for Hawaii?
You like that? I can do it aaaaaaall day.
I like the yellow helmets!
by MarineCorpsDuck on Oct 29, 2008 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah and then we'll trade Penn State for Purdue
now look who’s 4-3
Oregon State: where play action defense and healthy QBs thrive
by The VD Special on Oct 29, 2008 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I trade U or A for Arizona!
HA!
It's spelled "S-h-u-B-l-o-g-g-e-r"
by JShufelt on Oct 30, 2008 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I say if Oregon wins...they will be #2...
Because you have to take the whole schedule….
While OSU has the win against USC, they lost @Stanford, and were not even competitive against Penn State. I would be willing to forgive both of those as they were the first two games, except for the loss at Utah, which OSU should have won, but did not. OSU has an amazing win, 3 near worthless wins, and 3 road losses to great to below average teams.
Oregon on the other hand, has beaten no one of consequence, and lost in spectacular fashion against USC, as well as the somewhat competitive game against BSU, which you can add the caveat of QB injury. But, they also pulled it together on the road this week, something few teams in the Pac-10 have been able to do this year.
So, sine the Power Poll is all about looking forward and hypptheticals, what does this mean? To me, OSU has been very inconsistent. And wins against the Washington schools do not change this in my mind. Oregon on the other hand, seems to be somewhat answering the questions they had a few weeks ago. Their QB situation seems much more settled that it did during the BSU loss, which cannot be understated. If they win AT Cal, these questions will most likely be fully answered.
The name of the game this year in my mind, is consistency. Few teams have put it together, especially in the Pac-10. If Oregon wins on the road in consecutive weeks, they will have that. OSU has been an amazing team at times, and not at others (especially on the road).
I will also note that as a voter in the Power Poll, I do not view the power poll as a predictor of future success. It is based on the idea that…should these teams meet 10 times on a NEUTRAL field, who would win that series?
--www.AddictedToQuack.com, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
by jtlight on Oct 28, 2008 7:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm
Not sure I go with your “OSU has been very inconsistent.” That seems to be a bit of the refrain from the Duck fans coming over here, granted you are not trolling around which I appreciate and adding some good arguments, but have to admit it is making me a bit grumpy. Look he said 2-6 are interchangeable (which is more nice than I would be) and many here have noted how close the teams are (and I could go there too).
Is OSU playing 100% consistent ball? Heck no, otherwise they would have beat Utah and be ranked right now. But “very” inconsistent? I’m not sure I see this. I see a team that can improve but overall is playing pretty good ball.
Let’s look at the Ducks:
somewhat competitive game against BSU
ah, hmm, okay what the last quarter? Sure the QB deal got switched and came out firing, but come on Boise was kicking back a bit and UO opened it up in a bit of desperation. “Somewhat” is a good way to describe I guess. My point here though is why is all of the sudden our Ws inconsistent and not really worthy of mention and your L to Boise State something to brag about?
Your QB situation? I guess so if you don’t like balance on your offense. Sure OSU can’t spread teams out deep but at least we seem to show some sort of a passing game. If a team stops your running attack how consistent are you going to be? Okay that is my “cheap” shot, but again I just don’t know…
Back to OSU:
Okay, okay, you made some good points and not sure why I’m getting so pissy about all of this,. But I guess between the “very inconsistent” and seemingly implied USC handing us that W because we are not a quality enough team for them to pay attention to has got me into that Beaver fan mode of feeling a bit disrespected in how well our team is actually playing (a pleasant surprise to many by the way this year).
Do I wish the secondary would turn around on long passes instead of getting beat by face guarding? Do I wish we made defenses pay for stacking the box against us with some long balls? Yes and yes! Can they come back and haunt us against better teams? Yes, but I personally think both of these can be corrected.
Yes, again OSU had a very very very poor start, yes we didn’t seek and destroy UW, but the team is playing better than you are giving them credit for. My personal take, again just me I guess, is that since the Penn State game the Beavs have been playing 15-25 ranked ball (yes, including the lost to Utah which was a pretty impressive road game if you really think about and get past that hellfire horrible last two minutes).
And again I TOTALLY agree the meat of the season is now upcoming for both OSU and UO. Can we win out? Who knows, I would be pretty damned impressed if we do but also I don’t think it is totally out of the question. But to be honest I am assuming if we beat ASU and UCLA we still we keep hearing the inconsistent talk.
-RVM
by rvm on Oct 28, 2008 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There was NOTHING competitive about the Boise State loss.
Oregon fans were booing the 5th place ducks very loudly in the first half because the game was already over.
How is it spelled?
It's spelled S-h-u-V-3-0-0-0.
by CV3000 on Oct 28, 2008 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
First, I never implied that the USC game was given to you (that was done earlier)
OSU won an incredible game, and played lights out, punched USC in the mouth, and then came up with the plays they needed to in order to win the game. I have been very generous of my praise of that game, here and elsewhere.
But when I’m formulating my power polls, I do not even look at the UW, and WSU games. OSU’s performance in those games didn’t affect how I view the team. They had both good and bad happen in both games, but I don’t think those teams are indicative of ANYTHING this year.
IMO, beating beating ASU and @UCLA will go a long way in gaining consistency. But right now, taking away the 3 pathetic teams OSU has played, OSU is 1-3. Granted, the one win was spectacular, but the losses weren’t. Beating some lower tier teams that are still almost decent will go a long way in my eyes.
But just not as far as winning @Cal.
--www.AddictedToQuack.com, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
by jtlight on Oct 28, 2008 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know that, but it is starting to add up.
I agree with the power ranking stuff and overall I don’t think we can really call it right now, but I will add I totally disagree about taking away any Ws. To me that just doesn’t make sense and a bit along the lines of my smart-ass remarks that the USC game should be only 1/2 counted.
Taking games out of the consideration is illogical, the teams play the games and no matter if they are against vastly weaker teams they should be counted. Sure if you want to count them on some BCS power ranking scale then okay, but to dismiss the games completely is ridiculous. That is like saying okay let’s throw out the non-league Penn State loss since it was just a game to make some big bucks off of, we weren’t in the groove yet, had to travel so far, etc. etc. No it counts.
And in my opinion beating the teams you should beat and doing an overall pretty good job at it is a sign of consistent play. Yes, yes I know there were some bad points to both those games, but you guys didn’t play 100% hot stuff against ASU either. And I think we handled UW on the road much more consistently than you handled UCLA at home.
I will say this is not the case for only the Beavs but for any team, Ducks included. The ASU and UCLA games should be counted towards the Ducks power ranking as well as handling UW the opening weekend which was a tough game to open up with since it was a league game, yes even Utah State for it was a W and showed the Ducks have a lot of talent to beat up on them. WSU games, hmm, I will have to admit maybe those should not be included :)
-RVM
by rvm on Oct 28, 2008 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Inconsistent play?
You mean like winning your first two games by a combined score of 110-34, then escaping a game in overtime to a 2-5 team, then falling way behind to a team at home, only to kinda come back, only to fall off and eventually lose, then winning by 49, then losing by 34, then barely beating a bottom tier Pac 10 team by 7 at home, then winning by 34?
It may confuse you, but read it again. If it doesn’t make sense, just look at the Ducks schedule. It screams inconsistent. There have been ups and downs for both teams, yes. But at this point it appears your ups and downs come randomly, whereas our downs have been at the beginning of the year but now we are on the rise.
Put basically, you have looked very good in 4 wins, pretty bad in 1 win (UCLA), and awful in 2 loses.
We looked awful in 1 loss (Penn St), really good but shitty in the final 2 minutes of another loss (Utah), up and down against Stanford, pretty good against Washington (take away that TD run and we hold their O to less then 75 yards rushing easy, and they don’t score a TD all game), and awesome against USC, Hawai’i, and 3 quarters of WSU
Where’s MarineCorpDuck when I need him? He always lays me up with some props
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by The VD Special on Oct 28, 2008 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree that Oregon has been inconsistent...
But in the end…when I’m making my decision, the losses (especially the Utah loss as it was after the USC game) really stick out to me. Will OSU come out against the mid-level teams they play the rest of the way? We will see, and ASU and @UCLA will go a long way to showing that.
--www.AddictedToQuack.com, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
by jtlight on Oct 28, 2008 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will also add...
I don’t think there is any good way to decide whether OSU or Oregon should be higher. At this point, they are so close that it comes down to individual preference. Now, if OSU had won a game or two that it should have…it wouldn’t be close.
--www.AddictedToQuack.com, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
by jtlight on Oct 28, 2008 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm here, I'm here
And you are RIGHT, I agree with you yet again. These are POWER RANKINGS. I cannot argue with any of this. I have never been this deep into a season and still feel like I have no idea what my team is. I wouldn’t be suprised if we kill Cal, and I wouldn’t be suprised if we got killed by Cal. Power Rankings, to me at least, are more about “if these teams had to play today, who would be favored”. If the Civil War was this weekend, I think there’s a good chance the Beavs would be favored. I think the Beavs are playing more consistently right now. Beavs are 4-1 in their last 5, while the Ducks are 3-2 in their last 5. Once again, I hope both teams win out so the Civil War has more drama!
I like the yellow helmets!
by MarineCorpsDuck on Oct 29, 2008 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's interesting that people are overlooking our beat down against Hawaii--anything to minimize our superiority, I guess
-They played in a BCS bowl this calendar year!
-We held them to their lowest offensive output in 10 years!
-They’re quietly winning games, including on the road at Fresno State
How is it spelled?
It's spelled S-h-u-V-3-0-0-0.
by CV3000 on Oct 28, 2008 12:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I tried bringing that one up already
and didn’t seem to slow them down at all…
-RVM
by rvm on Oct 28, 2008 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Calendar year?
Didn’t you dismiss the Ducks win over Michigan from last year because they were down? Ummm…Michigan went to the Rose Bowl in ’06 and then the Ducks beat them at their stadium in the same “calendar year”. If we get no points, I award you no points. And may god have mercy on your soul.
I like the yellow helmets!
by MarineCorpsDuck on Oct 29, 2008 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Back of the line, duck
Hawaii didn’t lose to a high school team at home the week before we annihilated them.
How is it spelled?
It's spelled S-h-u-V-3-0-0-0.
by CV3000 on Oct 30, 2008 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lost to about everyone else though...
Your friendly neighborhood placekicker.
by qrsouther on Oct 30, 2008 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
obviously, you don't pay attention to real life
we’re not surprised by duck fans avoiding reality
How is it spelled?
It's spelled S-h-u-V-3-0-0-0.
by CV3000 on Oct 30, 2008 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You spoke too soon...
Utah State beat Hawaii 30-16.
--www.AddictedToQuack.com, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
by jtlight on Nov 7, 2008 8:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And this doesn't mean anything now...
just pointing this fact out…
--www.AddictedToQuack.com, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
by jtlight on Nov 7, 2008 8:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I love the Power Poll --Draft--
fun times.
How is it spelled?
It's spelled S-h-u-V-3-0-0-0.
by CV3000 on Oct 28, 2008 1:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
CV I had a dream about you last night
You were on the cover of the Oregon State media guide, playing basketball and football for some team called the Knights. You looked like a tall bald dude, any of this accurate? Or it must have been S-h-u-f-u-c-k-m-y-l-i-f-e-c-u-z-i-m-a-d-u-c-k-f-a-n
Oregon State: where play action defense and healthy QBs thrive
by The VD Special on Oct 28, 2008 1:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That’s now how it’s spelled!
It's spelled "S-h-u-B-l-o-g-g-e-r"
by JShufelt on Oct 28, 2008 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whoops.. Typo!
Whoops.. Typo!That’s not how it’s spelled!
It's spelled "S-h-u-B-l-o-g-g-e-r"
by JShufelt on Oct 28, 2008 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look closer
I’m dyslexic too, it happens to the best of us.
Your friendly neighborhood placekicker.
by qrsouther on Oct 30, 2008 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
dude. you're creeping me out.
How is it spelled?
It's spelled S-h-u-V-3-0-0-0.
by CV3000 on Oct 30, 2008 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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